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    Quote Originally Posted by McKnightrider View Post
    If you got rid of boots I think everyone would just buy Fatalis.
    i would quit smite on first day if something like this would happen xD
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    I want pen boots for phys classes so being an assassin can be easier.
    Wow...

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    lol has aeons of boots. just make more options

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    Quote Originally Posted by SpitefulOne View Post
    Speeds up the start of the game, check.

    Removes mandatory slot and improves build diversity, check.

    Damage doesn't necessarily increase due to another slot for a defense or offense item and the suggestion was for Season 3 when they normally look at items anyway.

    Thanks for supporting the argument even if you don't fully understand it.
    Speeding up the start of the game is NOT something you do want to have!

    Having a slower start makes the lanes safer, and lets have different speeds during the game making the gameplay feel different at the start and at the end.

    It does not improve build diversity it would most likely decrease it! (You lack the choice on WHEN to build movementspeed, this means you will just go for best damage path and this is not something subjective, but objective calculateable!)

    And of course ADCs would profit most from it since they profit the most from full build...

    Having to look at items is one thing, but having to rebalance the whole game, because someone does not like shoes is something different...
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    Quote Originally Posted by McKnightrider View Post
    If you got rid of boots I think everyone would just buy Fatalis.
    And thats the other side of the coin. We remove boots so we dont always fit a slot with them....but then there is Fatalis. Seems like the same problem with a new colour to me.

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    Just add a seventh item slot like they had in beta, now things will be OP, but balanced. I must have shield of regrowth on thanatos (seventh item slot), must have 7th item slot.
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    Quote Originally Posted by TigrisCallidus View Post
    Speeding up the start of the game is NOT something you do want to have!

    Having a slower start makes the lanes safer, and lets have different speeds during the game making the gameplay feel different at the start and at the end.

    It does not improve build diversity it would most likely decrease it! (You lack the choice on WHEN to build movementspeed, this means you will just go for best damage path and this is not something subjective, but objective calculateable!)

    And of course ADCs would profit most from it since they profit the most from full build...

    Having to look at items is one thing, but having to rebalance the whole game, because someone does not like shoes is something different...
    Being able to escape faster makes lanes safer as well and death less punitive.

    Your build order argument is the illusion of choice since you're not going to buy them late in the game.

    This is a season 3 suggestion so other item changes would likely be made as well. No change is made in a vacuum. Part of the problem stems from the fact that most offensive items are just stat sticks with no real intangible bonus.

    You wouldn't get to full 6 item build any faster. You would actually get there slower due to the increased overall cost since boots are a low cost item comparatively.

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    I like the idea, but we don't need more slots to increase build diversity, we need more items. While the list slowly grows, there is still one big problem. Crit is practically mandatory for ADCs.

    While I love my Neith power/pen build in truth, it doesn't compete with an AS crit build. It usually requires you being ahead or better than your ADC counter part. But as satisfying as out playing people is, the build is limited to a few people, namely Cupid and Neith, and there is too much risk to not just go the better build.

    For mages, it's Tahuti, which isn't too bad since it's only one item, and as someone brilliantly pointed out, the choice isn't what, but when. Tahuti is a huge power power and practically mandatory, but when you build is a huge choice.


    So.. I don't think removing boots while change anything, a new item from the meta will take it's place.

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    When Hirez tried to lower down boots in the Season 2 PTS, everyone just skipped them and bought Witch Blade or Winged Blade. Hell some support players just buy tier 1 shoes and rush Winged Blade still.
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    Quote Originally Posted by SpitefulOne View Post
    Boots automatically diminish the number of purchase decisions the player makes by 1 (out of 6) and their design is about dragging out the laning phase (also making dieing early more punishing due to increased time to get to lane).

    Suggestion #1: Baseline the movement speed from boots into each God's move speed. This speeds up the early game and opens up more possible item combinations.

    Suggestion #2: Add smaller amounts of movement speed to many items so that a full 6 item build will have the standard amount of movement speed. This opens up more build options but would slow the game down as movement speed would no longer be an all or nothing stat.
    Couldn't agree more!

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