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    Which of the magical penetration items is "enough"?

    So far there's 4 of them.
    Spear of the Magus (True Damage Threshold: 15/27/43), 15/35/55 pen against 100 def
    Obsidian Shard (0), 33 pen against 100 def
    Dynasty Plate Helm (15 always)
    Void Stone (15 always)

    Now my question is, it it enough to only get Obsidian Shard for example, or do you need a DPH/VS with that?
    (Obsidian Shard and Spear of the Magus are not a good combo, because % reduction/flat reduction/% pen/flat pen, therefore Obsidian Shard gives you 33%*(DEF*0.8 - 20) penetration)
    Is Spear of the Magus good enough on its own?
    Is it better to get DPH and VS or would you rather get Spear of the Magus and Hide of the Urchin (if you really wanted to combo, you'd get more def from Hide + 250HP/MP)?
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    You should get Obsidian shard on most mages.


    Who to get spear of the magus on: ANUBIS, Ares, Cabrakan,

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    NEVER ENOUGH!!!

    *cough*

    In all seriousness, you can usually get by with a single pen item if it's Spear or Shard, but you'll want more than just Void Stone or just Dynasty Plate Helm.
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    You forgot demonic grip

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    spear/grip i always use on freya
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    The best penetration items on their own are Spear and Daemonic, because they provide both flat penetration to burst through squishy targets as well as %-based debuffs to help shred tanky targets. Unfortunately not every mage is capable of using these items effectively. That's why I think that those who do got a sort of indirect stealth buff in season 2.
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    Quote Originally Posted by FeistyDeity View Post
    The best penetration items on their own are Spear and Daemonic, because they provide both flat penetration to burst through squishy targets as well as %-based debuffs to help shred tanky targets. Unfortunately not every mage is capable of using these items effectively. That's why I think that those who do got a sort of indirect stealth buff in season 2.
    Mages have 30 magical defense. With spear you already do true dmg to them.

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    I thought it was Shard for direct damage

    Spear for Dot-like abilities.

    No?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Trisitella View Post
    I thought it was Shard for direct damage

    Spear for Dot-like abilities.

    No?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Trisitella View Post
    I thought it was Shard for direct damage

    Spear for Dot-like abilities.

    No?
    Yes. This is correct.

    Or Demonic for AA's.
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