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Thread: Hel Truly Needs a Nerf

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    Quote Originally Posted by as4mo3 View Post
    First of all, yes.

    Secondly, she's shut down hard by literally any assasin.
    Nop. She eats loki/thor/bastet/batz and some others alive

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    Quote Originally Posted by ImAeternalis View Post
    1. Her passive is extremely restrictive. It takes ages for the full effect to come into play

    2. Her 1's distance is misleading and does less damage than other mage skillshots

    3. Her 2 isn't going to save someone

    4. Her 3 is very strong, yes. Aphrodite is still a better healer

    5. She has the most shit early game out of any god (sans kali and freya).

    6. She eats mana faster than anyone else. You pretty much eternally need blue buff unless you really feel like wasting time on meditation.

    7. She has no escape and is very squishy

    So obviously you have no clue how to counter a god.

    Weakening curse

    Brawler's beat stick

    Divine Ruin

    Frostbound hammer

    Gem of isolation

    Poke damage

    Stealing her blue buff

    Odin's ultimate

    Serqet's ultimate


    All of these will ruins hel for the whole game. Take her blue buff? Take any chance she has at winning anything.


    All you have to do is take her blue and gank her. She's fucked if you do that. Learn to counter a god before you spew this out.
    If hel have a weak early game then chang'e is non existent. How does she have a weak early game when she heal minions and you basically have to rekill the wave

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    [/QUOTE]4. Her 3 is very strong, yes. Aphrodite is still a better healer[/QUOTE]

    Aphrodite can't heal her whole team at once however.

    [/QUOTE]3. Her 2 isn't going to save someone[/QUOTE]

    I beg to differ. My friend, whom adores Hel and has mastered her 10 times a month ago, has saved me
    countless times with this move.

    [/QUOTE]6. She eats mana faster than anyone else. You pretty much eternally need blue buff unless you

    really feel like wasting time on meditation.[/QUOTE]


    Mana is no problem for a player whos seen an actual build of Hel's mid and late game.

    [/QUOTE]Serqet's ultimate [/QUOTE]

    That kills EVERYTHING that's not a Guardian, a mage is no exception.

    [/QUOTE]7. She has no escape and is very squishy[/QUOTE]

    It is true she has no escape and is squishy. Though one of my premises was that she gets a speed buff and has
    high sustain, supplementing in most situations the need for an escape.

    [/QUOTE]Poke damage[/QUOTE]

    Wouldnt her sustain just remove the poke? If not then why are you allowing them to poke you so much?

    [/QUOTE]Gem of isolation[/QUOTE]

    Not many people get this item period: most people want damage over defense. Whilst her speed boost cancels out the slow of Gem of Isolation.

    [/QUOTE]Frostbound hammer[/QUOTE]

    Same argument as for the Gem of Isolation

    [/QUOTE]Divine Ruin[/QUOTE]

    A lot of people assume this is a good item, and it really is. Though one of my premises stated that she heals at the tower, or after/before the battle. While shes on the run the effect will time out and she can just pop it up again.

    [/QUOTE]Brawler's beat stick[/QUOTE]

    Same argument as for Divine Ruin.

    [/QUOTE]Weakening curse[/QUOTE]

    This item is truly beautiful. Against a Hel the slow and 100% heal negation shuts her down. That and if she
    cant out juxes you shes done for. This is very viable, but if you find yourself seeing Hel more than you'd prefer don't you think that the 1 minute cool down will be kinda troublesome?

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    hel needs nerf

    Quote Originally Posted by ExtremelyCasual View Post
    If I had a quarter for every one of these threads, I'd have like seventy-five dollars in quarters.

    Just because you see someone who knows how to play Hel well, doesn't mean she's broke....it simply means you haven't figured out that ganking will kill 99% of the gods in the game yet.

    lol butthurt hel players are butthurt. She is easy to use, anyone good at smite will almost be immortal, she just heals too much for a decent damage dealer, plus with health build and little bit of power and cooldown she becomes unstoppable, played her once and owned. Its like the kukulkan for intermediates. Easy to use, overpowered, but required a tiny bit more skill to take advantage of.........tiny

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    As far as I know Hel doesn't have a place in conguest? I might be wrong (I don't play much of conguest games). She eats mana like a kid who sees his favourite cookies. Also her health pool is really smal (maybe even the smallest in game?).
    Although I do agrre that on 1 vs 1 she can be a pain, heck she is considered top tier. Thats why you counter build her.
    For assualt it depends on your team gods and enemy gods, if the enemy has hel and a good tank or somebody who knows how to protect her, then just play smart and pick them one by one. But then again that is assault and you just might not do well in that situation...becosue of he gods that system gave you.

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    May I ask why hel consume so much mana? I mean, isn`t everyone consuming tons of mana if they spam their skills on CD like most hel players? In this situation I think scalable CDs would be a buff to her. Bigger early game CDs means that ppl would spam less their skills, so they consume less mana.

    Seriously, hel consume less mana than the intensive mages like KKK/RA.
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    so who necroed this?
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    Quote Originally Posted by RainbowSplat View Post
    so who necroed this?
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    Hel is shit.

    She has to be babied until she gets out of laning phase to be close to relevant.

    She's the Artemis of mages.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ImAeternalis View Post
    Hel is shit.

    She has to be babied until she gets out of laning phase to be close to relevant.

    She's the Artemis of mages.
    She can beat anyone if the fucking jungler doesn`t intervene
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