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    Quote Originally Posted by Disquieted1 View Post
    He's balanced. Why?

    6 dragons. 6 basic attacks.

    After that is a ~10 second cooldown.

    Use some AoE ability to reveal him from stealth.

    Bait his 1.

    I'm assuming you're using Ao's kills/deaths to justify yourself, but remember:

    Objectives mean everything.

    What's his win rate?

    According to smitestuff...

    47%.

    Ao is balanced.
    Winrate's don't really tell you everything. A character can have a below 50% winrate and still be OP. A character can have an above 50% winrate and still be UP (Pubstompers for example).

    Quote Originally Posted by Disquieted1 View Post
    Because the PLAYER was good, not the god.
    Yeah because all gods are exactly the same once you hit their skill cap. So clearly the exact same result would have happened if they picked Anubis instead. /sarc

    Quote Originally Posted by Miiami View Post
    Today Ao Kuang went 3 / 10, 30lvl person. If he was so OP I think even noob would win with him, he requires good player, if played right he is "OP" as is any god if you feel good with him.
    I really think an explanation of the difference between skill floor and skill ceiling is in order here, because it seems like nearly everyone in this thread fails to realize it.

    Skill floor = the minimum skill needed to display competency at a character. Neith has a lower skill floor than say... Loki. A newbie Loki is going to do a heck of a lot worse than a newbie Neith because of this.

    Skill ceiling = the theoretical level of skill required to become as good with a character as you can possibly get. Anubis has a very limited play flexibility, so his skill ceiling is theoretically very low compared to someone like Ao Kuang.

    Why does this relate? Because how a newbie handles a character with a high skill floor as almost no bearing at all on whether or not they are OP. Characters with high skill floors are also likely to have significantly lower winrates on average due to people playing them poorly.

    I don't know whether I'd consider Ao Kuang OP or not, but the arguments I'm seeing against him being OP are seriously lacking in good reasoning or understanding in what makes a character OP or not.

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    Quote Originally Posted by TonYoloOo View Post
    I recall everyone at SWC constantly declaring Serquet as the "best" God in the game, not Ao Kuang, sorry. It just seems like a bunch of fan-boys jumping on this Ao Kuang bandwagon without supporting it with any substance. He's a melee glass cannon, stun = insta kill.

    Ironically, for how "OP" people claim he is, it seems like all these very same fanboys insta-locking him lately are going 3-14 lol. Generally a good Ao Kuang is not dictated by the character itself, but the player.
    can anyone in the game 3 hits people with Fatalis as first item? Only god is AO.

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    This thread is funny... It's full of people getting Overpowered mixed up with easy.

    Bastet is easy and strong, he bo is easy and strong, doesn't make them overpowered.

    This is a conquest based game, Ao Kuang is OP in conquest. You can't build against him since either way he'll rip your half your hp bar in seconds tank or not and the ulti makes it that much easier to take down a tank, only thing you can do if you're up against him is time your beads right or have magis. Also, you can bring up he's only good with his 2 but sadly he's not even though I wish that was the case, even without his 2, if you have both demonic grip and telkines ring your hp is still gone in seconds. If he gets in trouble, he can just blink away or if your hp is low enough just ult and go back to base.

    I rather face a serq than an Ao Kuang, beads her 2 and she can't do much until its off cd again, she can ult you but a straight ult wont take down a tank unike Ao Kuangs 2 which will rip a tank in half

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    Quote Originally Posted by JustVi View Post
    he is breaking each game he is in, all modes. how about some really fair nerf to him, not to destroy him or let him eat everything in his pass easily.
    In how many games was he played? 100% winrage only means a lot, when he was played in a lot of games by a lot of different people.
    Small number of games does mean nothing statistically speaking.
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    Yea, he can hurt even osiris with tether.

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    They should take telkhines ring out of the game.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Myrkulyte View Post
    Yea, he can hurt even osiris with tether.
    Doesn't tether only reduce physical damage? Not sure if it's his passive or tether or both.


    Just because you suck with a god does not mean they need a buff.


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    Ao kuang is fair as is, if he is so op why isn't he a #1 ban every game, a lot of people just ageas pendant his way out... not that hard.

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    He is op as fk. He bursts like hel. And you can't counter build him. SWC only proved a point, how op that sht is. and they find that legit. Doesnt matter where u play it, conquest, arena, siege it slays everywhere. Too high burst, too much of an escapes, ur saying dragons deal huge dmg? they do 50-70% of ur hp. Than we have his ability, and basic attacks that shred highly alone, and just in case u still manged to run away, we have his ultimate. Yay. And his not dead as sson u stun him, cause smart ao will save his 1 and blink away, awsome trough walls and sht. and u cant even cahse cause he has stealth.w

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ayspa View Post
    He is op as fk. He bursts like hel. And you can't counter build him. SWC only proved a point, how op that sht is. and they find that legit. Doesnt matter where u play it, conquest, arena, siege it slays everywhere. Too high burst, too much of an escapes, ur saying dragons deal huge dmg? they do 50-70% of ur hp. Than we have his ability, and basic attacks that shred highly alone, and just in case u still manged to run away, we have his ultimate. Yay. And his not dead as sson u stun him, cause smart ao will save his 1 and blink away, awsome trough walls and sht. and u cant even cahse cause he has stealth.w
    First off you really need some grammar and spelling lessons, Now on to the topic of the thread, as has been said by someone else before you're mistaking easy for op his is easy and cheesy, anyone with a brain on your team can and will counter build him, magi, beads, aegis, mystic mail, witch blade, curse, and now the new god's 2 all counter him and make it harder to get a kill for him. He is a hyper carry just like freya, chronos, merc, and most hunters. Lets all stop and think about how hyper carries work ok? Hyper carries work on getting a few early kills to help them grow faster, the faster they grow the larger a threat they are, don't give him those easy kills by staying in a group a smart Ao won't jump into a group until late game when he can actually burn down a mage then ult away to his team (this is in arena by the way) Another option you have to stop him is to focus him early game in any game mode Loki demolishes him IF the Loki has any idea how to play. Keep Ao killed early game he falls off has trouble keeping up, however if you let your guard down and start letting him get a few kills guess what happens? He becomes a threat. He really is the kind of god that if you want him to not be a problem you 1.) stay in a group, makes it hard for him to get those early kills, 2.) buy beads, aegis (the one that lets you walk so you can move to your team), or magi to stop his ult, I personally recommend all 3 makes it so if his team pops magi and beads you're still somewhat safe from him; if its arena then by the time your aegis is done your team can be there to help you, unless they are all dead in which case his team will be there to kill you which begs the question "Why did you stay out there in the first place?" 3.) have your tank and warrior buy mystic, if your tank and warrior both get mystic you have 2 people to turtle for safety, again a smart Ao won't go near that unless they know for sure they can get the kill and get out. I really wish people would play the god they think is op for a few matches themselves so they learn how he works. But then again its easier to just whine about stuff than find a way to counter it.
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