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    Quote Originally Posted by Lhune View Post
    I can't help but wonder why so many people get so defensive whenever a person asks for a visual balance, regardless of what that balance is. Someone here has made the observation that this game has 41 male gods versus 15 female goddesses and finds that the female gender is underrepresented, which is accurate. So they ask for more female gods. Why is this such a big deal? Are you offended that someone asks for more female gods? Who or what are you trying to "protect" by opposing that? And why? May be worth thinking about.

    As for those suggesting that there are far more male gods in mythology than there are female ones, I've made it easy for you but the next time please do your research:

    Greek & Roman pantheon: 12 major deities, 6 female (50%) source
    Egyptian pantheon: 15 major deities, 7 female (47%) source
    Norse pantheon: 11 major deities, 5 female (45%) source
    Chinese pantheon: 11 major deities, 6 female (55%) source
    Hindu pantheon: 14 major deities, 7 female (50%) source
    Mayan pantheon: 6 major deities, 2 female (33%) source

    Now, Hi-Rez may have a variety of reasons for releasing more male than female heroes, but it's not realism or historical accuracy. In the majority of ancient mythologies men and women are near enough equally represented. I am not here to enforce some personal agenda, just laying out the facts as they are. I'm not opposed to Hi-Rez releasing more male heroes but I wouldn't mind more variety either. Hell, I wouldn't mind having more women in the game in general.
    THANK YOU, I was gettin really sad not for this anger but that none support have more women.

    Quote Originally Posted by KingScuba View Post
    I want you to, instead of whining about "being selfish" to do research and find 40 female gods who could be imagined in smite's universe, that are unique and unlike any god presented in smite right now. I think you'll find it quite a challenge.
    Challenge accepted my dear.

    NOTES:
    -There are ALREADY gods, goddesses AND creatures in SMITE, even with that I tried to put most of them goddesses.
    -Many of them that are ALREADY in the game, like Hel have like 4 lines in wikipedia in which I would ask you all where can you read all powers that she has in game, and Hun Batz doesn't even have individual entry on wikipedia...so maybe imagination using that for inspiration?
    -There are ALREADY gods that have absolutely nothing that makes you believe that they can actually fight, IMAGINATION again, I bet years ago "bards" or "priests" that now are traditional roles in games were in their days criticized "someone singing killing people?! stay in battle doing something?!! hahahaha", and you even have the role "mage" where your creativity is your limit.


    Well here you go a list of SOME female deities, so many I couldn't even put anyone from Mayan, Chinese or Egypt because even not putting all from Greek/Roman, Hindu and Norse I've already reached 41 females before I notice, EVEN when we already have in the game some of the most famous ones. Some of them had incredibly long lores so I tried to put just a brief presentation or selecting what I though It could be interesting and some and others had just some lines like Hel or Hun Batz.

    Anyway I don't expect you to read anything, the point is Most of deities are male? In some cases yes, there are many females wich coul be perfectly in the game? Undoubtly, So "can we jsutify the lack of women by saying there's is no material from where have inspiration like the other characters that area Already in the game?" No there's not

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    1- Demeter - Though Demeter is often described simply as the goddess of the harvest, she presided also over the sacred law, and the cycle of life and death

    2-Ananke - was the personification of destiny, necessity and fate, depicted as holding a spindle. She marks the beginning of the cosmos, along with Chronos. She was seen as the most powerful dictator of all fate and circumstance which meant that mortals, as well as the Gods, respected her and paid homage. Considered as the mother of the Fates according to one version, she is the only one to have control over their decisions

    3- Hera - is the wife and one of three sisters of Zeus in the Olympian pantheon of Greek mythology and religion. Her chief function was as the goddess of women and marriage. Her counterpart in the religion of ancient Rome was Juno. The cow, lion and the peacock were considered sacred to her.

    4-Hestia - is a virgin goddess of the hearth, ancient Greek architecture, and the right ordering of domesticity, the family, and the state. . She thus rejects Aphrodite's values and becomes, to some extent, her chaste, domestic complementary, or antithesis. Zeus assigns Hestia a duty to feed and maintain the fires of the Olympian hearth with the fatty, combustible portions of animal sacrifices to the gods.

    5-Metis - In Greek mythology, Metis was of the Titan generation and, like several primordial figures, an Oceanid, in the sense that Metis was born of Oceanus and his sister Tethys, of an earlier age than Zeus and his siblings. Metis was the first great spouse of Zeus, and also his cousin. Zeus is himself titled Mêtieta, "the wise counsellor," in the Homeric poems. By the era of Greek philosophy in the fifth century BC, Metis had become the Titaness of wisdom and deep thought, but her name originally connoted "magical cunning" and was as easily equated with the trickster powers of Prometheus as with the "royal metis" of Zeus.

    6-Thetis - is encountered in Greek mythology mostly as a sea nymph or known as the goddess of water, one of the fifty Nereids, daughters of the ancient sea god Nereus

    7-Naiads - In Greek mythology, the Naiads were a type of water nymph (female spirit) who presided over fountains, wells, springs, streams, brooks and other bodies of fresh water.
    They are distinct from river gods, who embodied rivers, and the very ancient spirits that inhabited the still waters of marshes, ponds and lagoon-lakes, such as pre-Mycenaean Lerna in the Argolid.They were often the object of archaic local cults, worshipped as essential to humans. Boys and girls at coming-of-age ceremonies dedicated their childish locks to the local naiad of the spring. In places like Lerna their waters' ritual cleansings were credited with magical medical properties.

    8. Eos - In Greek mythology, Eos is a Titaness and the goddess of the dawn, who rose each morning from her home at the edge of the Oceanus. The dawn goddess Eos was almost always described with rosy fingers or rosy forearms as she opened the gates of heaven for the Sun to rise. Her team of horses pull her chariot across the sky and are named in the Odyssey as Firebright and Daybright. The Roman equivalent of Eos is Aurora, also a cognate showing the characteristic Latin rhotacism. The Dawn became associated in Roman cult with Matuta, later known as Mater Matuta. She was also associated with the sea harbors and ports

    9. Luna – Selene. In ancient Roman religion and myth, Luna is the divine embodiment of the Moon (Latin luna; cf. English "lunar"). She is often presented as the female complement of the Sun (Sol) conceived of as a god. Luna is also sometimes represented as an aspect of the Roman triple goddess (diva triformis), along with Proserpina and Hecate. Luna's Greek counterpart was Selene. In Roman art and literature, myths of Selene are adapted under the name of Luna. The myth of Endymion, for instance, was a popular subject for Roman wall painting
    Luna in her biga was an element of Mithraic iconography, usually in the context of the tauroctony. (The tauroctony refers to a genre of cult reliefs which served as the central icon of the Mithraic Mysteries cult in the Roman world. They depicts Mithras, wearing a distinctive phrygian cap, killing a bull by stabbing it in the neck)

    10 – Persephone - In Greek mythology, Persephone is the daughter of Zeus and the harvest goddess Demeter, and is the queen of the underworld. The epithets of Persephone reveal her double function as chthonic and vegetation goddess. The surnames given to her by the poets refer to her character as Queen of the lower world and the dead, or her symbolic meaning of the power that shoots forth and withdraws into the earth. Her common name as a vegetation goddess is Kore and in Arcadia she was worshipped under the title Despoina "the mistress", a very old chthonic divinity. Plutarch identifies her with spring and Cicero calls her the seed of the fruits of the fields. In the Eleusinian mysteries her return is the symbol of immortality and hence she was frequently represented on sarcophagi.
    In the mystical theories of the Orphics and the Platonists, Kore is described as the all-pervading goddess of nature[13] who both produces and destroys everything and she is therefore mentioned along or identified with other mystic divinities such as Isis, Rhea, Ge, Hestia, Pandora, Artemis, and Hecate.

    11. Pandora - In Greek mythology, Pandora was the first human woman created by the gods, specifically by Hephaestus and Athena on the instructions of Zeus. According to the myth, Pandora opened a jar (pithos), in modern accounts sometimes mistranslated as "Pandora's box", releasing all the evils of humanity

    12. Themis - is an ancient Greek Titaness. She is described as "of good counsel", and is the personification of divine order, law, natural law and custom. Themis means "divine law" rather than human ordinance, literally "that which is put in place", compared with , meaning "to put".

    13 Metis - In Greek mythology, Metis was of the Titan generation and, like several primordial figures, an Oceanid, in the sense that Metis was born of Oceanus and his sister Tethys, of an earlier age than Zeus and his siblings. Metis was the first great spouse of Zeus,[1] and also his cousin. By the era of Greek philosophy in the fifth century BC, Metis had become the Titaness of wisdom and deep thought, but her name originally connoted "magical cunning" and was as easily equated with the trickster powers The Greek word metis meant a quality that combined wisdom and cunning. This quality was considered to be highly admirable and was regarded by Athenians as one of the notable characteristics of the Athenian character. Metis was the one who gave Zeus a potion to cause Kronos to vomit out Zeus' siblings.

    14 - Eris (Ancient Greek: Ἔρις, "Strife") is the Greek goddess of chaos, strife and discord. Her name is translated into Latin as Discordia, which means "discord". Eris' Greek opposite is Harmonia, whose Latin counterpart is Concordia. Homer equated her with the war-goddess Enyo, whose Roman counterpart is Bellona. The dwarf planet Eris is named after the goddess, as is the religion Discordianism. Eris fosters evil war and battle, being cruel: her no man loves; but perforce, through the will of the deathless gods, men pay harsh Strife her honour due.

    15 – Nyx – is the Greek goddess (or personification) of the night. A shadowy figure, Nyx stood at or near the beginning of creation, and was the mother of other personified deities such as Hypnos (Sleep) and Thanatos (Death). Her appearances are sparse in surviving mythology, but reveal her as a figure of such exceptional power and beauty, that she is feared by Zeus himself. She is found in the shadows of the world and only ever seen in glimpses.

    16 Circe - In Greek mythology, was a goddess of magic (or sometimes a nymph, witch, enchantress or sorceress). By most accounts, Circe was the daughter of Helios, the god of the sun, and Perse, an Oceanid. Her brothers were Aeetes, the keeper of the Golden Fleece, and Perses. Her sister was Pasiphaë, the wife of King Minos and mother of the Minotaur. Other accounts make her the daughter of Hecate, the goddess of witchcraft herself.

    Circe was renowned for her vast knowledge of potions and herbs. Through the use of magical potions and a wand or a staff, she transformed her enemies, or those who offended her, into animals. Some say she was exiled to the solitary island of Aeaea by her subjects and her father for ending the life of her husband, the prince of Colchis. Later traditions tell of her leaving or even destroying the island and moving to Italy, where she was identified with Cape Circeo.

    17 - Agamede - was, according to Homer, a Greek physician acquainted with the healing powers of all the plants that grow upon the earth.[1] She was born in Elis, the eldest daughter of Augeas, King of the Epeans, and was married to Mulius, the first man killed in battle by Nestor during a war between Elis and Pylos Hyginus makes her the mother of Belus, Actor, and Dictys, by Poseidon.[4] She was called Perimede by both Propertius and Theocritus. By the Hellenistic period (c. 4th to 1st centuries BC), Agamede had become a sorceress-figure, much like Circe or Medea.
    Agamede was a daughter of Macar, from whom Agamede, a place in Lesbos, was believed to have derived its name.[3][8] The town had already disappeared in Pliny's day.[9][10] Ancient Agamede has been identified recently, with the ruins (walls, graves) on a small hill called “Vounaros” 3 km north of ancient Pyrrha.[11]

    18 Graeae - In Greek mythology the Graeae (Gry-eye, gry-ee, gray-ee; English translation: "old women", "grey ones", or "grey witches"; alternatively spelled Graiai (Γραῖαι) and Graiae), also called the Grey Sisters, were three sisters in Greek mythology who shared one eye and one tooth among them. Their names were Deino, Enyo, and Pemphredo.
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    19 Ushas - is an exalted goddess in the Rig Veda but less prominent in post-Rgvedic texts. She is often spoken of in the plural, "the Dawns." She is portrayed as warding off evil spirits of the night, and as a beautifully adorned young woman riding in a golden chariot on her path across the sky. Due to her color she is often identified with the reddish cows, and both are released by Indra from the Vala cave at the beginning of time

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    20 Lakshmi - is the Hindu Goddess of wealth, love, prosperity (both material and spiritual), fortune, and the embodiment of beauty. She is the wife of Vishnu. Also known as Mahalakshmi, she is said to bring good luck and is believed to protect her devotees from all kinds of misery and money-related sorrows.[1] Representations of Lakshmi are also found in Jain monuments.

    Lakshmi is called Shree or Thirumagal because she is endowed with six auspicious and divine qualities, or Gunas, and also because she is the source of strength even to Vishnu.

    21 - Prithvi - is the Sanskrit name for earth and its essence Prithivi Tattwa, in the name of a Hindu Goddess. Prithvi is also called Dhra, Dharti, Dhrithri, meaning that which holds everything.
    As Prithvi Mata "Mother Earth" she contrasts with Dyaus Pita "father sky". In the Rigveda, Earth and Sky are frequently addressed in the dual, probably indicating the idea of two complementary half-shells. She is the wife of Dyaus Pita ('father Dyaus'). (The widespread belief that these two were originally a single deity appears to be mistaken. She is associated with the cow. Prithu, an incarnation of Vishnu, milked her in the cow's form to get food from her. She is a national personification in Indonesia, where she is known as Ibu Pertiwi ('Mother Earth').

    22 -Saraswati - is the Hindu goddess of knowledge, music, arts, wisdom and nature. She is a part of the trinity of Saraswati, Lakshmi and Parvati. All the three forms help the trinity of Brahma, Vishnu and Shiva in the creation, maintenance and destruction of the Universe. The Goddess is also revered by believers of the Jain religion of west and central India.
    23 Jyestha - Jyestha or Jyeshtha (Sanskrit: ज्येष्ठा, Jyeṣṭhā, "the eldest" or "the elder") is the Hindu goddess of inauspicious things and misfortune.[2] She is regarded as the elder sister and antithesis of Lakshmi, the goddess of good fortune and beauty.
    Jyestha is associated with inauspicious places and sinners. She is also associated with sloth, poverty, sorrow, ugliness and the crow. She is sometimes identified with Alakshmi, another goddess of misfortune. Her worship was prescribed for women, who wished to keep her away from their homes.

    24- Adi parashakti - According to Hindu mythology, Adi Parashakti—the Goddess, Devi—is the Supreme Being and recognized as Para Brahman.[3] The Devi Bhagwata Mahapurana suggests that Adi Parashakti is the original creator, observer and destroyer of the whole universe. Today's Scientist call her Supreme Intelligence or Sacred Energy,[4] and she is known commonly around the world simply as God. It is she who created everything which exists in the Universe.

    25 Alakshmi - She is described as being “cow-repelling, antelope-footed, [and] bull-toothed."[2] Or she “has [a] dry shriveled up body, sunken cheeks, thick lips, and beady eyes and that she rides a donkey."[2] She sometimes takes the form of an owl that is portrayed accompanying Lakshmi. It is believed the owl is the representation of “arrogance and stupidity that often accompanies fortune [brought by Lakshmi] and heralds misfortune.”[2] It is for this reason that Lakshmi's devotees are wary of the owl

    26 Bagalamukhi - or Bagala (Devnagari: बगलामुखी) is one of the ten mahavidyas (great wisdom goddesses) in Hinduism. Bagalamukhi Devi smashes the devotee's misconceptions and delusions (or the devotee's enemies) with her cudgel. She is also known as Pitambara Maa in North India. Once upon a time, a huge storm erupted over the Earth. As it threatened to destroy whole of the creation, all the gods assembled in the Saurashtra region. Goddess Bagalamukhi emerged from the 'Haridra Sarovara', and appeased by the prayers of the gods, calmed down the storm. You can see replica of 'Haridra Sarovara', as described in scriptures, at Peetambara Peetham, Datia, Madhya Pradesh, India. Bagalamukhi standstill or Who can take control over enemies physical and mental action

    27 - Bahuchara Mata - is a Hindu goddess. She was a daughter of a charan Bapal dan Detha. She and her sisters were on a journey with a caravan when a marauder named Bapiya attacked their caravan. It was common practice among charan men and women, if overpowered by their enemies, not to surrender but to kill themselves. Shedding the blood of charan was considered a heinous sin. When Bapiya attacked the caravan, Bahuchara and her sisters announced tragu and cut their breasts. Legend tells that Bapiya was cursed and became impotent. The curse was lifted only when he worshiped Bahuchara Mata by dressing and acting like a woman.[1] Today Bahuchara Mata is considered patroness of—and worshipped by—the hijra community in India. Though many of her followers believe in non-violence and consider killing of all animals and creatures a sin, historically Bahuchara Mata was, like many Hindu gods and goddesses, the recipient of annual animal sacrifices.
    Bahuchara Mata is shown as a woman who carries a sword on her top right, a text of scriptures on her top left, the abhay hasta mudra ("showering of blessings") on her bottom right, and a trident on her bottom left. She is seated on a rooster, which symbolises innocence.

    28 Chamunda - also known as Chamundi, Chamundeshwari and Charchika, is a fearsome aspect of Devi, the Hindu Divine Mother and one of the seven Matrikas (mother goddesses). She is also one of the chief Yoginis, a group of sixty-four or eighty-one Tantric goddesses, who are attendants of the warrior goddess Durga.[2] The name is a combination of Chanda and Munda, two monsters whom Chamunda killed. She is closely associated with Kali, another fierce aspect of Devi.
    The black or red coloured Chamunda is described as wearing a garland of severed heads or skulls (Mundamala). She is described as having four, eight, ten or twelve arms, holding a Damaru (drum), trishula (trident), sword, a snake, skull-mace (khatvanga), thunderbolt, a severed head and panapatra (drinking vessel, wine cup) or skull-cup (kapala), filled with blood. Standing on a corpse of a man (shava or preta) or seated on a defeated demon or corpse (pretasana), she is described as having a skeletal body with three eyes, a terrifying face, drooping breasts, protruding teeth, long nails and a sunken belly

    29 – Chelanma - Chelamma, is a Hindu goddess of the Southern Karnataka region of India.
    Chelamma is a Scorpion goddess and is worshipped along with Kolaramma in Kolar.
    Followers believe that by praying at the Chelamma shrine a person will be guarded from scorpion bites by the deity. There is an ancient Hundi which is carved down into the ground and people have been putting the gifts or Kanike in it from the past 1,000 years and no one has ever opened it.
    Legend has it that it contains precious stones and gold coins of bygone times.
    The name includes the suffix "amma" which is a common suffix for most South Indian female goddesses.

    30 Chhaya or Chaya -means shadow or shade. Chhaya is also personified as the goddess of shadow, the consort of Surya, the Hindu sun god.[1] She is the shadow-image or reflection of Saranyu (Sanjna), the first wife of Surya. Chhaya was born from the shadow of Sanjna and replaced Sanjna in her house, after the latter abandoned her husband.
    […] She places her shadow Chhaya in her place, who was created by illusion to take care of her children. Surya mistakes Chhaya for Sanjna and begot Manu upon her. As Manu looked just like his father, he was called Savarni Manu. However, Chhaya, also called parthvi ("earthly") Sanjna, became partial to her own son and ignored those of Sanjna. Yama, Sanjna's son and god of death, was angry by her behaviour and threatens her by his foot. Chhaya cast a curse on Yama, which revealed to Yama and Surya that Chhaya was not the true Sanjna. Chhaya cursed that Yama's legs would fall away, but Surya reduced this curse so that some parts of Yama's legs would fall and would be consumed by worms on earth. Surya threatens Chhaya with a curse forcing her to reveal the reality. Frightened, she discloses the entire story of her creation. After the revelation of Chhaya, Surya finds Sanjna and brings her back. The text also states that Shani was a brother of Savarni Manu, though his birth is not explicitly stated. According to Wendy Doniger, the substitution of the dark shadow was apt by Saranyu for the dark Surya

    31 Devi Kanya Kumari - is Shree Bhagavathy in the form of an adolescent girl child. Devi is also known as Shree Baala Bhadra or Shree Baala. She is popularly known as "Bhagavathy" (Durga) or "Devi". The Bhagavathy Temple is located in Cape Kanya Kumari in Tamil Nadu; the southern tip of main land India, there by located on the confluence of the Bay of Bengal, the Arabian Sea, and the Indian Ocean. She is also known by several other names, including Kanya Devi and Devi Kumari. She is also worshiped as Shree Bhadrakali by devotees. Sage Parashurama is said to have performed the consecration of the temple. The Goddess is believed to be the one who removes the rigidity of our mind, devotees usually feel the tears in their eyes or even inside their mind when they pray to the goddess in devotion and contemplation

    32 Dhumavati (Sanskrit: धूमावती, Dhūmāvatī, literally "the smoky one") is one of the Mahavidyas, a group of ten Tantric goddesses. Dhumavati represents the fearsome aspect of Devi, the Hindu Divine Mother. She is often portrayed as an old, ugly widow, and is associated with things considered inauspicious and unattractive in Hinduism, such as the crow and the Chaturmas period. The goddess is often depicted on a horseless chariot or riding a crow, usually in a cremation ground.

    Dhumavati is said to manifest herself at the time of cosmic dissolution (pralaya) and is "the Void" that exists before creation and after dissolution. While Dhumavati is generally associated with only inauspicious qualities, her thousand-name hymn relates her positive aspects as well as her negative ones. She is often called tender-hearted and a bestower of boons. Dhumavati is described as a great teacher, one who reveals ultimate knowledge of the universe, which is beyond the illusory divisions, like auspicious and inauspicious. Her ugly form teaches the devotee to look beyond the superficial, to look inwards and seek the inner truths of life.

    33- Ganga - In Hinduism, the river Ganges is considered sacred and is personified as a goddess known as Ganga. It is worshipped by Hindus who believe that bathing in the river causes the remission of sins and facilitates Moksha (liberation from the cycle of life and death). Pilgrims travel long distances to immerse the ashes of their kin in the waters of the Ganges, bringing their spirits closer to moksha.

    Several places sacred to Hindus lie along the banks of the Ganges, including Gangotri, Haridwar, Allahabad and Varanasi. During the Loy Krathong festival in Thailand, candlelit floats are released into waterways to honor the Buddha and the goddess Ganga (พระแม่คงคา, คงคาเทวี) for good fortune and washing away sins (pāpa in Sanskrit, used to describe actions that create negative karma by violating moral and ethical codes, which brings negative consequences.)


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    34 Eir - In Norse mythology, Eir is the goddess associated with healing. She is known to be one of the handmaidens of Frigg, who is wife of Odin, the king of the gods. She is considered a minor goddess and is not one of the Æsir often thought of when one thinks of the Norse pantheon.
    Eir is the healer of the other gods and goddesses. If they were ever sick or injured; Eir would heal and protect them. One of the things Eir uses to heal people is ritual involving a white tanned flower (called the "Eirflower" for this reason). She would only use this ritual if she really needed to.
    Eir's specific color is green. Many others say that she also likes red because it is the color of flesh. It was common to light a red or green candle for Eir when praying for healing.

    35 Frigg - (or Frigga) is a goddess in Norse mythology. She is Odin's wife. She is the goddess of marriage, motherhood, managing the household, and keeper of the domestic arts. She has the power of prophecy, but she does not tell what she knows. Her children are Baldr, Höðr and, in an English source, Wecta; her stepchildren are Hermóðr, Heimdall, Tyr, Vidar, Váli, and Skjoldr. Thor is her stepson. Frigg's companion is Eir, the gods' doctor and goddess of healing. Frigg's attendants are Hlín (a goddess of protection), Gná (a messenger goddess), and Fulla (a fertility goddess). It is unclear whether Frigg's companions and attendants are simply different aspects of Frigg herself (cf. avatar). According to the poem Lokasenna Frigg is the daughter of Fjorgyn (masculine version of "Earth," cf. feminine version of "Earth," Thor's mother), her mother is not identified in the stories that have survived.

    36 Iðunn - is a goddess in Norse Mythology. She is the goddess of youth, wife of Bragi, god of poetry. She guards the golden apples. These apples are eaten by the Norse gods to let them live until Ragnarok, the battle of the end of the world.

    37 Jörð - (or Jord) is a giantess (jötun) and goddess in Norse mythology. She is the personification of Earth. Her name means "Earth". She is also called Fjörgyn.
    Jörð is the wife of Odin, king of the gods, and the mother of Thor. Her parents are Annar and Nótt.
    Snorri Sturluson says Jörð was included among the Asynjur. Her name occurs most often in Skaldic and Eddic poetry in phrases that refer to Thor as "the son of Jörð". There is some confusion, however, because in some parts of the Poetic Edda the word "Fjörgyn" appears in phrases referring to Thor, such as in the poem "Voluspa", where Thor is described as "the son of Fjörgyn". Scholars explain the confusion by pointing out that Fjörgyn, as an Old Norse noun, means "earth" when used in the feminine form.

    38 Elli - In Norse mythology, Elli is the personification of old age. She represents enternity. In the Prose Edda book "Gylfaginning", Elli defeats Thor in a wrestling match.

    39 Nerthus - is a goddess of fertility in Germanic paganism. She was mentioned by the Roman historian Tacitus in his study of the Germans, called Germania. Nerthus visited an island and was always met with celebration and hospitality. Nerthus was also mentioned as a goddess of peace, for when she visited this island, all weapons were locked up so as to not offend her.

    40 Nótt - (Old Norse "night") is a personification of the night in the Norse mythology. A goddess similar to her, but in Greek mythology, is Nyx.
    Nótt is called "night" by mankind, "darkness" by the gods, "unlight" by jötnar, "joy-of-sleep" by the elves. She is black and swarthy, a daughter of the giant Narfi

    41 Snotra - is a goddess of wisdom in Norse mythology. The Prose Edda says that Snotra is "high and courteous". She is a goddess that, according to Snorri Sturluson, "should be worshiped as a high-ranking goddess".

    42 Skadi - was a goddess of hunting and skiing in Norse mythology. She was married to Njord, and later married to Ull or Ullr. She married Njord because she was suppose to marry a god by looking at only the god's feet; she picked Njord because the sand had weathered his feet and Skadi thought he was Baldur.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Lhune View Post
    I can't help but wonder why so many people get so defensive whenever a person asks for a visual balance, regardless of what that balance is. Someone here has made the observation that this game has 41 male gods versus 15 female goddesses and finds that the female gender is underrepresented, which is accurate. So they ask for more female gods. Why is this such a big deal? Are you offended that someone asks for more female gods? Who or what are you trying to "protect" by opposing that? And why? May be worth thinking about.

    As for those suggesting that there are far more male gods in mythology than there are female ones, I've made it easy for you but the next time please do your research:

    Greek & Roman pantheon: 12 major deities, 6 female (50%) source
    Egyptian pantheon: 15 major deities, 7 female (47%) source
    Norse pantheon: 11 major deities, 5 female (45%) source
    Chinese pantheon: 11 major deities, 6 female (55%) source
    Hindu pantheon: 14 major deities, 7 female (50%) source
    Mayan pantheon: 6 major deities, 2 female (33%) source

    Now, Hi-Rez may have a variety of reasons for releasing more male than female heroes, but it's not realism or historical accuracy. In the majority of ancient mythologies men and women are near enough equally represented. I am not here to enforce some personal agenda, just laying out the facts as they are. I'm not opposed to Hi-Rez releasing more male heroes but I wouldn't mind more variety either. Hell, I wouldn't mind having more women in the game in general.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Aurasai View Post
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    Good research there, have some rep!

    People mostly haste to jump on the hatewagon, without considering the possibility that the person may actually be on to something. If they can't think of a reason why he/she is wrong then he/she must be a feminist/racist/whateverelse-ist!
    you need to research these godess, not just see that the numbers are even, thats ignorance,i read the post showing all the female gods and most of them are not combat based, so would it make sense to make a bunch of only healing gods or overload the game with supportish roles? the point is although there are alot of female gods, maybe = or close to, there lore says there not fighters and be better suited for support and it would be a stretch to implement them in the game, so they have devs eventually will get around to doing it but it's obviouslly easier to say Zues is lightning god and he throws lightning than making a God and kid that is all healing.

    Example Idunna- Goddess of Youth and Beauty, yes that sound like a beast fighter, 2 out of 5 goddesses are like that, were 5 of 5 Gods are usable easy without bending the lore.

    hera - Juno _Queen of the gods and the goddess of marriage and family. Symbols include the peacock, pomegranate, crown, cuckoo, lion, and cow. Youngest daughter of Cronus and Rhea. Wife and sister of Zeus. Being the goddess of marriage, she frequently tried to get revenge on Zeus' lovers and their children.

    Even Aphrodite seems wierd as a god fighting in battle, it's a stretch , in the Greek Mytholigy she was always at home cheating on her husband not fighting in battles.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Warmeat View Post
    you need to research these godess, not just see that the numbers are even, thats ignorance,i read the post showing all the female gods and most of them are not combat based, so would it make sense to make a bunch of only healing gods or overload the game with supportish roles? the point is although there are alot of female gods, maybe = or close to, there lore says there not fighters and be better suited for support and it would be a stretch to implement them in the game, so they have devs eventually will get around to doing it but it's obviouslly easier to say Zues is lightning god and he throws lightning than making a God and kid that is all healing.

    Example Idunna- Goddess of Youth and Beauty, yes that sound like a beast fighter, 2 out of 5 goddesses are like that, were 5 of 5 Gods are usable easy without bending the lore.
    "Combat gods (including hunting gods)":
    Greek mythology (from the 12 olympians):
    Zeus, Athena, Artemis, Ares. (2/4 female)
    Norse mythology (from the listed by Lhune):
    Odin, Thor, Tyr, Ullr, Freya, Hel. (2/6 female)
    I don't know much of non european mythologies, so here is the Slavic one:
    The most common major gods between the multiple regions are:
    Male: Dajbog, Jarilo, Perun, Svarog, Svetovid, Veles
    Female: Morana, Mokosh, Zoryas (technically 2 goddesses), Lada
    "Combat gods": Perun, Svetovid, Veles, Morana, Zoryas (2(3)/5(6) female)

    Apparently there are plenty of female "combat gods", so this isn't an issue. Now take in mind that the majority of gods in Smite are not "combat gods". If Aphrodite can be in a battle, I am sure every god can. So far from the Slavic concepts i've finished, 3/7 of the gods are female (none of which are support, while 2 of the male ones are), with a new assassin goddess incoming, so if you want further proof that non-combat gods can work in a game, just visit the God concepts forum section and see plenty of people doing it.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Aurasai View Post
    "Combat gods (including hunting gods)":
    Greek mythology (from the 12 olympians):
    Zeus, Athena, Artemis, Ares. (2/4 female)
    Norse mythology (from the listed by Lhune):
    Odin, Thor, Tyr, Ullr, Freya, Hel. (2/6 female)
    I don't know much of non european mythologies, so here is the Slavic one:
    The most common major gods between the multiple regions are:
    Male: Dajbog, Jarilo, Perun, Svarog, Svetovid, Veles
    Female: Morana, Mokosh, Zoryas (technically 2 goddesses), Lada
    "Combat gods": Perun, Svarog, Svetovid, Veles, Morana, Zoryas (2(3)/6(7) female)

    Apparently there are plenty of female "combat gods", so this isn't an issue. Now take in mind that the majority of gods in Smite are not "combat gods". If Aphrodite can be in a battle, I am sure every god can.
    you just don't get it, your looking at it as a fan not a developer, it's really hard to come up with abilitys and synergizer kit around a god that only heals, or is a trophy wife, there doing a good job as is but you can't have a character that can't kill, so how can you put Jesus in the game for example, just because he is popular or wanted, give them time to come up with good concepts and find godesses that do the game justice.

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    I replied to your post on the previous page Warmeat, in case you missed it. Again, Cupid, Bacchus, Chronos, Mercury, they are all just as much of a "stretch" as Aphrodite and VERY few female goddesses are "only healers" or "trophy wives" (2 out of 6 major Greek goddesses are married at all, same as the men btw). Apollo is a healer as well (among many other things), I don't see anyone complain about that being left out.

    The point is, if your argument is that there can't be as many female goddesses because they aren't "combat appropriate", you either don't know enough about the vast variety of female goddesses out there or you simply lack creativity. Both are equally lame excuses and I'm pretty sure they don't apply to Hi-Rez.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Warmeat View Post
    you just don't get it, your looking at it as a fan not a developer, it's really hard to come up with abilitys and synergizer kit around a god that only heals, or is a trophy wife, there doing a good job as is but you can't have a character that can't kill, so how can you put Jesus in the game for example, just because he is popular or wanted, give them time to come up with good concepts and find godesses that do the game justice.
    As posted earlier:
    So far from the Slavic concepts i've finished, 3/7 of the gods are female (none of which are support, while 2 of the male ones are), with a new assassin goddess incoming, so if you want further proof that non-combat gods can work in a game, just visit the God concepts forum section and see plenty of people doing it.
    Apparently, it isn't. Now lets just keep on arguing for the sake of arguing!
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    Quote Originally Posted by Aurasai View Post
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    Good research there, have some rep!

    People mostly haste to jump on the hatewagon, without considering the possibility that the person may actually be on to something. If they can't think of a reason why he/she is wrong then he/she must be a feminist/racist/whateverelse-ist!
    As much as I agree with you, if the people who post these threads actually provide some research and put a well thought out post behind their words it generally leads to less hate bandwagoning. Not that I agree with the hate bandwagoning, a well thought out OP will get rid of most of this issue. Obviously idiots will still be idiots, but that's beside the point. Basically what I'm saying is the OP wasn't constructed very well and people will always argue something that isn't structured well no matter how well thought out it is or the intent behind it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by IntelliTroodon View Post
    Ok, so you decide for yourself that you are going to only play female gods, and you get mad when your god pool is limited.

    HOW STUPID ARE SOME PEOPLE??
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    This is what I'm talking about. This person only sees how the post was constructed and replies to that. The intent of the OP wasn't for that to be the focal point of the discussion/suggestion, but because he/she highlighted it so early for no apparent reason, other than to segway into the topic, people will jump on it. Posts really need to be well put together and focused with research to back it up before being posted. If not you'll end up with this kind of hate no matter how well intentioned it is. Especially with mainstream hot topics such as gender equality.
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