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    anti CDs item

    Many items have counters(heals-anti heal, defense- pen, move-slow, dmg-lower dmg aura, slow-wingedblade) maybe its time for cds to have one 2.

    Aura: Reduce Cds by x% amount.

    Some gods have cap + the extra cd ones like Chronos pendant and Gengi guard makes them almost impossible to keep up.

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    it wouldn't work, it'd be impossible to balance. at 10% additional Cooldown people will just mitigate it with full cooldown (30% is still viable, some build end up overstacking cooldown anyway because of other effects i.e. Jottuns Wrath Hydra's Lament Breast plate of Valor so back at 40%).
    if you try adding 20% you'll definitely start seeing 50% CDR builds, because again 30% is viable.
    and if you go to 30%, people will really start calling foul and/or you'll start seeing AA gods everywhere.
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    also factor in, those items are countering God Abilities more than they are countering other items.

    now correct me if i'm wrong but there is no ability in Smite that lowers CD of other abilities (or even one ability).

    something like this would be impractical and maybe even impossible to put in. mainly for the reason listed above mine.

    it would be a nightmare to balance, so it would either end up being useless or stupidly broken overpowered.
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    Quote Originally Posted by GameVeteranAzure View Post
    also factor in, those items are countering God Abilities more than they are countering other items.

    now correct me if i'm wrong but there is no ability in Smite that lowers CD of other abilities (or even one ability).

    something like this would be impractical and maybe even impossible to put in. mainly for the reason listed above mine.

    it would be a nightmare to balance, so it would either end up being useless or stupidly broken overpowered.
    They are a few abilities that reduce your cooldowns of other abilities; Ratatoskr's 2, Hera's passive, Guan Yu's 1 and 2, Raijin's passive, Ullr's passive, Fafnir's ult (technically resets all basic abilities so i'm counting it).

    But yea, it doesn't change the fact that what's being suggested would be stupidly overpowered before full build, and than completely useless vs magicals end game.
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    Quote Originally Posted by GameVeteranAzure View Post
    also factor in, those items are countering God Abilities more than they are countering other items.

    now correct me if i'm wrong but there is no ability in Smite that lowers CD of other abilities (or even one ability).

    something like this would be impractical and maybe even impossible to put in. mainly for the reason listed above mine.

    it would be a nightmare to balance, so it would either end up being useless or stupidly broken overpowered.
    It would be situational the same way anti crit item is. Its almost like any other anti-... item out their if u see they over cap it u get it simple.

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    Quote Originally Posted by AIGuardian View Post
    It would be situational the same way anti crit item is. Its almost like any other anti-... item out their if u see they over cap it u get it simple.
    except anti crit and anti heal are in response to something, if your'e ramping up cool down timers that's just good no matter what, at which point building CDR is instead the counter.
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    Anti CD items also wouldnt be terribly good over the other items out there. Anti heal comes into play mostly against sustain comps, and well.....no one builds spectral armor. If you give as a defensive aura, the gods who it would work best against are either burst assassins who wouldnt care terribly cause they use their combo and then wait for the CD anyways, or mages/ability adcs who will be out of range.

    Similarly, its make a poor offensive item because as an assassin you want more kill potential, or as backline you want the same.

    I'm not saying it's a terrible idea, I'm just saying it lacks potential co.pared to other choices.

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    Quote Originally Posted by SquireAngel View Post
    Anti CD items also wouldnt be terribly good over the other items out there. Anti heal comes into play mostly against sustain comps, and well.....no one builds spectral armor. If you give as a defensive aura, the gods who it would work best against are either burst assassins who wouldnt care terribly cause they use their combo and then wait for the CD anyways, or mages/ability adcs who will be out of range.

    Similarly, its make a poor offensive item because as an assassin you want more kill potential, or as backline you want the same.

    I'm not saying it's a terrible idea, I'm just saying it lacks potential co.pared to other choices.
    Yea just make it cheap with a hole bunch of other nice stats.

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    This kind of mechanic makes more sense for a specific god's abilities rather than an item. Before people got CDR, this kind of thing would be OP as fuck; after they did, it would be rendered moot against most builds.
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    Quote Originally Posted by SirKeksalot View Post
    This kind of mechanic makes more sense for a specific god's abilities rather than an item. Before people got CDR, this kind of thing would be OP as fuck; after they did, it would be rendered moot against most builds.
    Make ur up mind OP or moot lol. For me that means situation = good like most counter build should be.

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