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    Quote Originally Posted by Relanah View Post
    Gods try and use unique abilities. If Thor is removed from the game and all of his abilities where then spread among new gods, then there would be 0 chance that Thor would be re-introduced with all of his abilities.

    He might have something based on one of his previous abilities, but he would not get what is now effectively another god's abilities.
    Ridiculous. He bo has a front cone ability. So Tyr in Assault stance is a copy of He Bo because he has a front cone? He bo has a circular knockup and Vulcan has a circular knockup, so Vulcan is the same as He bo?

    Quote Originally Posted by Relanah View Post
    Original Arachne was changed (Repeatedly...) for a reason and that's why it was safe to cannibalize her kit and make it into new abilities for various gods.
    No, she was not changed repeatedly. Numbers were changed such as damage numbers and cooldown numbers etc. but the skills were the same since closed beta when she was added. She was one of the earliest added assassins in the game.

    Quote Originally Posted by VlentisFlyheightis View Post
    At best, the eggs may return on another Spider based god.

    if we get Tsuchigumo, which is unlikely as Tsuchigumo is a type of demon not a specific demon, and the most famous one that is even possibly usable is the one that Minamoto defeated, which itself wouldn't really be a good fit for eggs as it's lore is more about using the illusion of a woman and floating skulls and such.

    Anansi is a male in his lore (we do suspect we're getting an African god soon based on announcements but Anansi is a stretch) so eggs are out there.

    Neith's spider roots are largely ignored other than she uses webs as bow strings and wraps herself up when she dies, also there's no way in hell they're changing Neith at this point.

    So yeah, you're gonna have to wait for another pantheon to get the egg skill back.
    Why do they have to be spiders? You are failing to abstract out the basic skill, its something that stays in a position, has a cast time and takes an arming time before it it can pop minions if there is an enemy nearby, thus preventing creation in the middle of a fight. The enemy can simply see you create the spawner and walk away and thus not be in danger of spawning the minions. The only way to use the spiders was to hide the eggs around a corner and make the enemy chase you and cause an ambush, or pulling enemies to the eggs using ult.

    There is no reason the spawner has to be "eggs" and the minions have to be "spiders". Just as an example: a God can crate a spawner that looks like a light orb or a crystal, when enemies come close it, the spawner pops and spawns smaller light orbs that chase and attack. Ofcourse the pull is also a crucial ability and no mobility skills was also part of Arachne's theme.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Geff View Post
    Ridiculous. He bo has a front cone ability. So Tyr in Assault stance is a copy of He Bo because he has a front cone? He bo has a circular knockup and Vulcan has a circular knockup, so Vulcan is the same as He bo?



    No, she was not changed repeatedly. Numbers were changed such as damage numbers and cooldown numbers etc. but the skills were the same since closed beta when she was added. She was one of the earliest added assassins in the game.



    Why do they have to be spiders? You are failing to abstract out the basic skill, its something that stays in a position, has a cast time and takes an arming time before it it can pop minions if there is an enemy nearby, thus preventing creation in the middle of a fight. The enemy can simply see you create the spawner and walk away and thus not be in danger of spawning the minions. The only way to use the spiders was to hide the eggs around a corner and make the enemy chase you and cause an ambush, or pulling enemies to the eggs using ult.

    There is no reason the spawner has to be "eggs" and the minions have to be "spiders". Just as an example: a God can crate a spawner that looks like a light orb or a crystal, when enemies come close it, the spawner pops and spawns smaller light orbs that chase and attack. Ofcourse the pull is also a crucial ability and no mobility skills was also part of Arachne's theme.
    ok so you just want another landmine god who can force the enemy into it and get jumped by minions. ok i can dig it. doesn't belong on Arachne ever again but i can dig it. i actually don't see how it's different from Arachne's current spiderlings other than being able to drag someone into it rather than throwing it at someone.
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    Old Arahcne was horrible as fuck

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    Combine her 1 and 2 into an ability that makes more tick damage the more autos you get off up until the wrap and gain that heal and the rest of the tick damage applying as a burst on a character that is wrapped. Ne Zha already has the pull. Her 3 has spiders removed but the slow increases into a root. Her 2 is where she gains her spiders which apply a damage debuff to enemies while they do damage and move faster on arachnes webs, giving a greater debuff. They crawl out of a tiny circle targeter which isnt affected by walls. The idea is panic making the enemy do less damage. Her ultimate no longer has that awkward slow at the end, but arachne is invisible and the web ceiling is increased so that its harder to tell where she is. Instilling dread in enemies in the area, the best cc. She can activate her web in her ult to drop a web however, but that makes it show where you are. Same with the spiders.

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    Old Arachne was garbage and picking her after all of her nerfs before her rework was borderline trolling.

    You can enjoy Old Arachne for all about 2 minutes because that's all she was useful for.
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