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    Thor build outside Conquest

    Wanting a non-Trans build so I do not have to compete with Trans Hunters and Book Mages, I found this to be very useful in non-Conquest modes so far.

    Start - Attacker's Blessing (early game advantage) + Tier 1 Mace

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    First three items in order
    1 - Talaria Boots, while you lose 20 power of Warriors you gain MP5 for ability spam and higher movespeed for positioning.

    2 - Jotunn's Wrath, CDR mainly plus Power and Pen.

    3 - Soul Eater, easy to stack and Passive helps keep you alive.

    Next 3 in whatever order you feel best
    4 - Crusher, mainly for Passive. Alternate item Heartseeker if you can get the 5 AA stacks, better Passive plus more MP5.

    5 - Shifter's Shield, good defense especially at low health plus nice Power at high health.

    6 - Masamune, bit more defense, move and power. Really you can flex other items of choice here.

    Going to see if this works with some tweaking for other ability Assassins, Hun Batz for example could replace Jotunns with Hydras as he likes the Passive better and needs the CDR less as abilities rank up.

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    Do u want a full dmg or bruiser build ? I generally build him and fenrir the same with max cdr, tank, n a lil pen.

    Warrior, jotuns, BPoV, bulwark, mantle of discord, crusher. I know I'm over on CD but I like the double proc of mantle and bulwark, could take out jotuns for brawlers.

    Full dmg on thor for me is warrior, jotuns, crusher, brawlers, heart seeker, hydras. Most ppl forget that thor can actually apply hydras well and it solves mana problems.

    I've told many friends when in doubt build mace tree in ability sins

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    In your build, Wild, you're going quite damage-y, with a bit of protections from Shifter's and Masa. One thing that probably hurts your survivability is the lack of health (100 from Masa is almost nothing). With the situational protections from both (a lot of Shifter's only kicks in once you're below 50% health, which is less helpful overall, and Masa requires multiple enemies within range), it makes the protections you DO have less reliable overall.

    Thor can poke well with Mjolnir's, but when he fully commits to an attack, especially in non-conquest modes where teamfights are more likely, he's going to be fairly exposed...so better survivability due to higher effective health (health + prots) is usually preferred.

    In addition, I'd say that 25 pen (10 from Jotunn's, 15 from Crusher) is possibly not enough when you're committing that much to damage.

    Yes, Soul Eater probably balances your survival out a bit due to that ability lifesteal aspect, but I'm not sure it's enough. It might be your only option when you're looking to play him with this gameplay style.

    I've always felt that he's better as a more committed bruiser, with more prots and health. Instead of going more offensive, you become more utility with the global ult relocation and stun, the rift stun, and your mobility and disruption by being in their face.

    You can get good use out of items like Void Shield if you'd like, as it provides that pen function (but not only just for you). Ancile on the other side for magical protection is also good, and works very well if the passive is up and you're initiating with your ult.

    Other items to consider would include Mantle of Discord (like break says) and Hide of the Urchin. Neither provides any offense like Void and Ancile do, but provide better prots overall. Urchin's shield is great because you'll build that health shield up in-between engagements (and you won't lose it if you're just poking at range with Rift + Mjolnir), and Mantle is nice to disrupt the enemy if you're fighting to the death.

    So...items to consider that you didn't list originally:


    • Void Shield
    • Ancile
    • Hide of the Urchin
    • Mantle of Discord
    • Brawler's Beat Stick
    • Titan's Bane (very situational)
    • Hydra's Lament (attack canceling is definitely good for him)

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    Yes, truthfully the last 3 items could be swapped as needed.
    Really only the first 3 I find crucial that I build them all the time.

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    What I learned with Thor outside of conq is that in some Games you really want to challenge people with auto attacks. I'm not 100% sure what the conditions are as I haven't played Thor that much since I made this revelation. But I think I like it in games where they have annoying fronters and in jumpers that you wanna help team kill, like ganesha, ares, Ravana, achilles, kali, Merc. Basicly you wanna be able to challenge and fight these Gods efficiently without blowing your whole kit that you save for a Ult, hydra proc, 3 hydra proc that can be enough to kill a backliner. But in some games it simply doesn't work, you get blown up faster then you blow people up.

    In such cases you want, Jotuns, Hydra, Titans, Rage, Deathbringer. While this lets you burst and one shot squish with hydra+ "lucky" crit proc its main advantage is that it lets you hammer down with basics on tanks and actually contribute with something when it comes to their front. You really don't wanna waste 1 and 3 on a tank as Thor, but if you can land just the 2, get them in a bad position, hit them with basics a few times before using hammer to escape their backline pouring in, it can help delete their front for your team. From there you can ult into backline and carry on killing. If anti heal is badly needed in the build you replace Hydras, the crits is what supplies the sustained damage of contributing with the tank busting the Hydra is mainly to carry over the benefits to their squishy.

    Don't get me wrong the mace build and sticking in Bulwark/Void shield/Pesti is really nice and core Thor build as I see it, but in some games you need to rely more on basic attacking and I find crits with Thor do that best in arena and similar.

    Keep it in mind and if you are in a game where it feels like your kit won't cut it, Thor ain't a bad wielder of crits and relying on high sustained auto attack damage as he hits 1x all time.

    I think extra MS on Thor could be a little bit of a crutch. Ult lets you land next to targets, 1 moves you around. 2 stuns people. You have a lot of things to setup landing basics with Hydra procs. Ulting in, auto attacking, stun, auto, 3 auto, and 1 to escape requires no extra MS. Same with 2 into 1, 3 -> ult for escape or keep fighting. But I also know its kinda hard to land all his skills (1 and ult) so that you get melee hits of perfectly so having ms to mitigate bad plays (I'm not a good thor personally but I delight in myself everytime I hit a dual 1, into teleport hydra melee attack crit) is alright and in some games you really want extra ms anyway.
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    Quote Originally Posted by MuffinMan17 View Post
    ...Other items to consider would include Mantle of Discord (like break says) and Hide of the Urchin. Neither provides any offense like Void and Ancile do, but provide better prots overall ...

    • Void Shield
    • Ancile
    • Hide of the Urchin
    • Mantle of Discord
    • Brawler's Beat Stick
    • Titan's Bane (very situational)
    • Hydra's Lament (attack canceling is definitely good for him)
    Big fan of Urchin, Void Shield and Hydra's for AA cancel on Thor. Along with Pen and CDR these are core for my non-CQ build.
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    Alter for factors of course, antiheal as needed etc, but for Thor/Fenrir/Camazotz, i typically go Attackers/Guardian Blessing(depending on mode) > Warriors Tabi > Breastplate of Valor <> Bulwark of Hope > Void Shield* OR Ancile** > Jotun's Wrath* OR Heartseeker** > Titans Bane/Mantle of Discord (as needed).
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