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    Quote Originally Posted by RainbowSplat View Post
    Soul Gem is pretty bad on most gods.

    It has such low power that you'd often be way better getting an item that actually offers you more damage on all your abilities rather than that 30% of power on a single ability every 4th cast.

    Especially if you poke at all during a teamfight, meaning you can just waste the proc hitting just the enemy tank rather than landing the proc on multiple people.

    Again, the exceptions are, gods like Nu Wa that can guarantee to get the proc on many enemies. Gods like Aphro/Agni that can spam fast enough to get the procs flowing to make the damage it provides average out to being similar to having a better statted item. With the last few gods being those that are just looking to do as much up front burst as possible because they're all about getting in and dumping their entire kit onto someone and getting a kill such as Ao Kuang, He Bo and some The Morrigan builds.

    Heck, I say "Gods like these" but in reality, those aforementioned gods are actually the only ones that can use it effectively in theory. In practice though is another story...

    Aphro's often don't build as heavy on power to pick up some defence or utility such as Asclepius/Lotus which makes the item worse than many others for raw output.

    The Morrigan tends to favour just using Poly instead because Poly is far, far, far, far stronger AND also synergizes with Library builds thanks to it also having some mana on it as well as her combos easily weaving basic attacks into them.

    Even Nu Wa can use other items more effectively especially since her soldiers neither proc it nor stack it so she's left with just 2 skills to actually stack the thing and then only her ult is decent for proccing it... I mean, Nu Wa could probably be even stronger by ditching Soul Gem and just using Soul Reaver instead, which she shares similar synergy with (I.e. Her ult procs it on all 5 enemy gods)

    Meaning that the pool of "Gods it's worth picking up compared most, if not all other possible items" becomes Agni, Ao Kuang and He Bo... IF you feel you can get value from the proc consistently.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Relanah View Post
    Heck, I say "Gods like these" but in reality, those aforementioned gods are actually the only ones that can use it effectively in theory. In practice though is another story...
    you can actually make it work on those gods and some others if you manage the procc well but it's too much of a hassle to keep the stacks for a better use, you'd be better off picking something else which gives more power or pen or both directly than keeping those stacks
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    Quote Originally Posted by RainbowSplat View Post
    i know that feeling

    chrono's pendent remains the best starter item for mage in assault dont worry ,)

    and freya since the retail needs it ... as very first item ... some will say "NO" i already know one ,)

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    Quote Originally Posted by Relanah View Post
    Soul Gem is pretty bad on most gods.

    It has such low power that you'd often be way better getting an item that actually offers you more damage on all your abilities rather than that 30% of power on a single ability every 4th cast.

    Especially if you poke at all during a teamfight, meaning you can just waste the proc hitting just the enemy tank rather than landing the proc on multiple people.

    Again, the exceptions are, gods like Nu Wa that can guarantee to get the proc on many enemies. Gods like Aphro/Agni that can spam fast enough to get the procs flowing to make the damage it provides average out to being similar to having a better statted item. With the last few gods being those that are just looking to do as much up front burst as possible because they're all about getting in and dumping their entire kit onto someone and getting a kill such as Ao Kuang, He Bo and some The Morrigan builds.

    Heck, I say "Gods like these" but in reality, those aforementioned gods are actually the only ones that can use it effectively in theory. In practice though is another story...

    Aphro's often don't build as heavy on power to pick up some defence or utility such as Asclepius/Lotus which makes the item worse than many others for raw output.

    The Morrigan tends to favour just using Poly instead because Poly is far, far, far, far stronger AND also synergizes with Library builds thanks to it also having some mana on it as well as her combos easily weaving basic attacks into them.

    Even Nu Wa can use other items more effectively especially since her soldiers neither proc it nor stack it so she's left with just 2 skills to actually stack the thing and then only her ult is decent for proccing it... I mean, Nu Wa could probably be even stronger by ditching Soul Gem and just using Soul Reaver instead, which she shares similar synergy with (I.e. Her ult procs it on all 5 enemy gods)

    Meaning that the pool of "Gods it's worth picking up compared most, if not all other possible items" becomes Agni, Ao Kuang and He Bo... IF you feel you can get value from the proc consistently.
    You know it makes me want to try this on Freya. I wonder if she will get good heals out of it with her lifestyle passive. I'm thinking no, but I have to try it out now lol.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Diamondrainn View Post
    You know it makes me want to try this on Freya. I wonder if she will get good heals out of it with her lifestyle passive. I'm thinking no, but I have to try it out now lol.
    She won't...

    Since, only her 1 and her ult will even stack the thing.

    If you're building Freya properly, that's essentially 5 kills = a heal for 30% of your power...

    Way better to get lifesteal on her, especially as a god that uses basic attacks a lot so it doesn't get watered down like most other mages (Because AoE skills only receive 30% of the effect of your lifesteal)

    I.e. Get Typhon's on her and go heal like crazy.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Relanah View Post
    She won't...

    Since, only her 1 and her ult will even stack the thing.

    If you're building Freya properly, that's essentially 5 kills = a heal for 30% of your power...

    Way better to get lifesteal on her, especially as a god that uses basic attacks a lot so it doesn't get watered down like most other mages (Because AoE skills only receive 30% of the effect of your lifesteal)

    I.e. Get Typhon's on her and go heal like crazy.
    .... wow then yeah it's fucking useless then and think the only one who really benefits it are healers, but seriously you can't tell if the heals are better or not.
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    lol I wish I could get 50% cdr on phys at times (but I think it would be op), and 30% cdr in one item ain't ever bad.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Diamondrainn View Post
    She's being serious and I agree with her because it doesn't have stats that excite me. I tried it on Aphro and seriously, I don't see the difference or feel anything when I use it on her prob bc she's a healer, and you would think it will be good because she's heals, but I don't see any tangible results, but now it makes me curious to use it on a non healer..yet I ponder, why would a non healer benefit on this?
    The stat distribution will pretty much fit on any mage baring Kuang/Freya, and having self sustain is always nice, if you want more of a utility approach compared to Bancroft giving huge power and lifesteal out the ass. Soul Gem is 100% core for Hel tho, all the stats are good for her, she stacks it so easily and her kit works great with it.

    Really its down to whether you want to trade damage for utility. Its more of a jack of all trades item rather than having a single large focus.
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    Soul Gem I find good on certain gods with certain things. Examples:

    Baron Samedi - Despite being a Healer, he has a low cooldown on his 1, if you build an CDR Boots and a CDR Armor first two items, you can spam abilities better to proc the Gem's Passive.

    Nox - Usually goes for the 2-1 combo and some early CDR so 2 combos, she has full stacks.

    Zhong Kui - Adding heals on top of his 2 helps him tank, even though he has good cooldowns they get better and easily spammable abilities proc the Passive more.

    Basically gods that often use combos like Nox or low cooldowns like Baron / Zhong can stack its Passive easy, the health also makes it an option for a tanky mage, more CDR and the combined Lifesteal plus Passive seems to help some tanky mages more than other mages except Nu Wa who benefits in another way the health buffing her 2 a bit.

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