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    The Crusher + mercury = i dont understand why it is not working

    patch 5.17
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    as reminder : the crusher adds 15% dmg to damaging abilities over 2s from power so...
    thor = ok
    nezha = ok
    nemesis = ok
    fenrir = ok
    muzen = ok
    odin = ok , the aura does !!
    bastet = ok , ult pets = no
    arach = no , though spiders are written as projectile but as bastet is not , ok for that .
    loki = no , not even the ult which is a damaging ability no ?
    mercury = NOOOOOO !!! and here i dont understand why _ _ _ sincerely

    i searched in patch notes ; nothing .
    it seems you(devs) paid special attention about why yes why no , but mercury ... please.

    nb : mage blessing has the same behavior , i used to combine those two to gain some poyzon , which is of course very useful for assassins in assault.

    i dont really like mercury , lets say i dont like , but from now on i will scare to random_pick it in assault , cause i lost 15%dmg all the sudden for [in my opinion] no reason .

    if it is a bug please fix it , if it is intentionnal please change it .

    regards .

    Last edited by FRONTdeQUICHE; 09-19-2018 at 09:16 AM. Reason: "cry me a river" (justin timberlake)

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    Trying to discern what you're talking about here.

    Are you saying you aren't having it proc on his abilities? Coz I've had Crushers procs from Merc's from their 1 and their 3.
    Are you saying it's not proccing from something else?

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    Mercury moves in the blink of an eye, dealing one melee attack to every enemy within the target area. Each hit may trigger item effects for Basic Attacks, and can Critical Hit. Made You Look does not trigger Ability related item effects.
    As far as I can recall, this has been the description on the ability for a long time, meaning if it was proccing Mage's Blessing/Crusher, then it was a bug.

    Since the entire thing is that MYL is a basic attack and thus enables basic attack modifiers (Such as Stone Cutting Sword, The Executioner, Golden Blade, Frostbound Hammer, Atlanta's Bow, Odysseus' Bow, Hydra's Lament and of course, critical strikes)

    While Hi-Rez have shown they don't like abilities that can utilize both basic attack and ability based procs (Such as Freya's 1 and Ao Kuang's 3)
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    Quote Originally Posted by Saerireth View Post
    Trying to discern what you're talking about here.

    Are you saying you aren't having it proc on his abilities? Coz I've had Crushers procs from Merc's from their 1 and their 3.
    Are you saying it's not proccing from something else?
    it used to _ and since 5.17 it no more does _ try it in custom mode just to see (i had to rent merc for one day 100¥)

    Quote Originally Posted by Relanah View Post
    As far as I can recall, this has been the description on the ability for a long time, meaning if it was proccing Mage's Blessing/Crusher, then it was a bug.

    Since the entire thing is that MYL is a basic attack and thus enables basic attack modifiers (Such as Stone Cutting Sword, The Executioner, Golden Blade, Frostbound Hammer, Atlanta's Bow, Odysseus' Bow, Hydra's Lament and of course, critical strikes)

    While Hi-Rez have shown they don't like abilities that can utilize both basic attack and ability based procs (Such as Freya's 1 and Ao Kuang's 3)
    i made a list of gods _ i took the time to try them in custom mode _ this explains that

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    Quote Originally Posted by FRONTdeQUICHE View Post
    it used to _ and since 5.17 it no more does _ try it in custom mode just to see (i had to rent merc for one day 100¥)
    You know you can try every god and skin in Jungle Practice right?
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    Crusher should not proc on mercs 1. If it ever did it was a bugg.

    Mercs 1 is an auto attack, which is why you build crits.

    Why do you want 15% power proc when you can get 100% power proc with crits?

    Merc is hard to play in assault. Try deathbringer first item in assault, it does what you want crusher to do, but much better. It adds 150% dmg when it procs (yes only 25% chance) compared to 15% of crusher, yeah.... However spamming 1s for poke is ez. Add rage or other crit items after and in 4 items or so you will get online for real. Building crusher shoehorns you into a power+pene build which merc doesn't do well at all. He wants crits first and second CDR/power/speed in assault.
    Last edited by RockerBaby; 09-19-2018 at 10:41 AM.
    Rocking the boat

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    Quote Originally Posted by RockerBaby View Post
    Crusher should not proc on mercs 1. If it ever did it was a bugg.

    Mercs 1 is an auto attack, which is why you build crits.

    Why do you want 15% power proc when you can get 100% power proc with crits?

    Merc is hard to play in assault. Try deathbringer first item in assault, it does what you want crusher to do, but much better. It adds 150% dmg when it procs (yes only 25% chance) compared to 15% of crusher, yeah.... However spamming 1s for poke is ez. Add rage or other crit items after and in 4 items or so you will get online for real. Building crusher shoehorns you into a power+pene build which merc doesn't do well at all. He wants crits first and second CDR/power/speed in assault.
    thx for tips _ and most of all thanks for giving a real explanation , if crit works on skill1 am ok then to admit crusher cant function as this way it is not a damaging ability but an enhanced basic attack, which is weird for me in the first place but ...whatever

    no big deal anyway ,) i never liked mercury ,i was just somehow surprised of the change

    _mage blessing as starter item is/Was good for him in assault with the mps per missing mana it gives , thats why i coupled with crusher on early game , poisonous ult was fun .
    then i used build full frw (fast run walk) cause the occassions to fight close to close are super rare if you dont have mobility nor defenses [as i play it assassin style]
    full crit should be my new line of conduct if i try it with success ... as random pick is not a random pick it might take some time [some days i have merc 5 times ... like if ... yeah you know it ^^ random pick is rigged]

    cheers
    Last edited by FRONTdeQUICHE; 09-19-2018 at 11:03 AM. Reason: ok modos _ you can close this thread

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    chrusher is not worth on mercury when he get so much more from a movement speed item .
    the pwer spike from using his passive with say stone cutting or golden blade is going to give you way more

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