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    Every other assassin is mostly ass, he clears the fastest, ganks and hard as fuck, fucks people shit up with or without beads and even if behind can still play decent with protection removal, sustain and hard cc.
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    Quote Originally Posted by KAKLAW View Post
    Every other assassin is mostly ass, he clears the fastest, ganks and hard as fuck, fucks people shit up with or without beads and even if behind can still play decent with protection removal, sustain and hard cc.
    If he can land all his attacks and not get cc'd or focused, yeah. He has no escape besides using his ult to dash. The minute you cc him or dodge his sash, he's a goner

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    Quote Originally Posted by KAKLAW View Post
    Every other assassin is mostly ass
    >every other assassin
    >fuckin all of em
    >thor exists
    >kali and nem have been strong and hated for a long-ass time
    >plenty of other assassins are perfectly fine and don't rely as much on skillshots

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    Quote Originally Posted by SirKeksalot View Post
    >every other assassin
    >fuckin all of em
    >thor exists
    >kali and nem have been strong and hated for a long-ass time
    >plenty of other assassins are perfectly fine and don't rely as much on skillshots

    Quoth the raven, "What the fuck?"
    Does it need to be stated that I meant in this meta? Thor isn't even that good. He's average but Rat offer more with his ganks, Kali is Shit as fuck in conquest and Nem is entirely dependent on whether Hirez buffed or nerfed her ult since she's a pure ult bot (and buffig her 2 doesn't change that).

    Other assassins are "fine" but many are just plain obsoleted (Thor), got nerfed into position of inferiority (Susano'o), just plain shit (Arachne, Loki) or EXTREMELY situational. In Conq it's basically Serqet, Rat, Ne Zha, Hun batz and Nemesis (slightly less). Hell jungling in general is getting invaded by other classes at a higher level. Yes Ne Zha can mess up but at higher levels of play that doesn't help often and he has move speed steroids+a good heal (+crit chance), that's lot more then most other gods can say that are just as immobile as him.
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    Quote Originally Posted by KAKLAW View Post
    Does it need to be stated that I meant in this meta? Thor isn't even that good. He's average but Rat offer more with his ganks, Kali is Shit as fuck in conquest and Nem is entirely dependent on whether Hirez buffed or nerfed her ult since she's a pure ult bot (and buffig her 2 doesn't change that).

    Other assassins are "fine" but many are just plain obsoleted (Thor), got nerfed into position of inferiority (Susano'o), just plain shit (Arachne, Loki) or EXTREMELY situational. In Conq it's basically Serqet, Rat, Ne Zha, Hun batz and Nemesis (slightly less). Hell jungling in general is getting invaded by other classes at a higher level. Yes Ne Zha can mess up but at higher levels of play that doesn't help often and he has move speed steroids+a good heal (+crit chance), that's lot more then most other gods can say that are just as immobile as him.
    In this Meta?

    Well, if looking at some stats on Smite.gg then the Assassins with highest pick/ban rates in Conq are:

    Ne Zha
    Serqet
    Loki
    Bakasura
    Mercury
    Ravana
    Thanatos
    Ratatoskyr

    With Hun Batz being 8th lowest and Nem being right under him...

    Even in the SPL there's much less Serqet and more Bakasura these days.

    Then as far as "Rat is just better Thor" they're both pretty equal. Rat provides a knock up with his ult, a stun with his acorns and some prot shred on his spin. While Thor provides a stun with his ult, a stun and a wall with his wall and more damage.

    Sure, Assassin's are objectively the worst class at the moment, because they have the highest number of "Bad" gods (Loki, Arachne, Kali, Pele... I'd say Baka but people are apparently making him work, he's still poorly designed though literally by being 100% reliant on Hastened and Qin's to do anything)
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    Quote Originally Posted by Relanah View Post
    Well, if looking at some stats on Smite.gg then the Assassins with highest pick/ban rates in Conq are:

    Ne Zha
    Serqet
    Loki
    Bakasura
    Mercury
    Ravana
    Thanatos
    Ratatoskyr
    By pick and ban yes, but if we look at the actual winrate, then it's a different story with Bakasura being at the top spot right now, followed by:

    - Arachne
    - Loki
    - Kali
    - Rat
    - Awilix
    - Mercury
    - Thanatos
    - Ravana

    So Rat is up there, while Thor is 4th lowest with only 47% winrate overall.

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    Quote Originally Posted by KAKLAW View Post
    Thor isn't even that good. He's average but Rat offer more with his ganks
    Aaaaaand your entire post is invalid because Thor has better CC and more early-game damage.
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    Thor isn't as good as he used to be but he is by no means bad.
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    30 pen on level 1 is fine...

    tbh they could buff other aspects of ne zha but that pen is ridiculous. Don't talk about early game dmg as if it is isolated to just 1 God. A 3v3 fight in duo lane and ne zha team gets -30 pen and its over.
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