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    Quote Originally Posted by Relanah View Post
    Which is 15% max health damage plus its base damage and any scaling that may be relevant (Depending on your starting build)

    It's significant damage, especially against a low base health class like an Assassin.
    If you can't do more than that as an assassin, you're doing something wrong.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Outso187 View Post
    If you can't do more than that as an assassin, you're doing something wrong.
    Someone has never versed a 5 man premade~

    Also you misunderstood the reply unless it was edited. It was talking about early coffin damage.

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    Baron pretty much slaying every game I see him in. Havent used him myself cuz he looks like a dork and I just can't get into it, but dude is a savage.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Lord__Hazanko View Post
    Baron pretty much slaying every game I see him in. Havent used him myself cuz he looks like a dork and I just can't get into it, but dude is a savage.
    Had 2 Baron's in a recent arena game(i know, not conquest but you did say every game) and they both did pretty badly. The one on my team straight up rage quit so we were down a player(which really sucked because his CC would have been much appreciated) and we still kicked the other teams butt.

    Awilix(my team) was going crazy diving against the enemy team constantly yet somehow getting kills before she died and she didn't have a blood forge or any defense/lifesteal... I was truly amazed at how long she'd survive without backup.

    Our Ganesha was just being a silence tank(probably the real reason we won).

    But honestly the ones on both teams that were really doing all the work was the 2 Xbalanque, there was me going 90% crit chance and an Atalanta's bow killing everything pretty fast and using my CC immune dash to break out of Baron CC and Da Ji ults.

    And there was the enemy Xbalanque going double shuriken and trans/jotuuns so he could ult a lot(i just kept picking up blue buff for CDR).

    Regardless both the Barons really weren't doing much, with our own Baron straight up leaving.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Outso187 View Post
    If you can't do more than that as an assassin, you're doing something wrong.
    The issue isn't what he does, not specifically, but the ease at which he does it without drawback, which is what makes the balance issue.


    Assassins can't exactly get to him. Yeah he doesn't have a leap, but so fucking what? Leaps are for running and engaging. He doesn't need to do either one of those things. You might be able to deal with baron on his own, MAYBE, but if hes protected, then diving the back line for him is suicide.

    In fact if you jump on him he can effortlessly start his combo on you without even so much as aiming or thinking... baron is so easy that the person playing it can actually panic every fight and still walk away with more kills than not.

    srs thou.

    not impressed. I'll be surprised if hes not nerfed almost every patch and permabanned in ranked. Just like what happened to cerb... oh wait. No, for some reason, he has disadvantages built in... so... its not like they don't know the whole "Risk vs reward" thing is part of a balanced character. They actually had to make him easier to play because he was too much risk for his reward.

    He STILL has no secondary effect on his line attack if he gets a less than perfect hit. Its all or nothing for a guardian, but rubber bumpers all the way down for a shit-stain zero effort mage.

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    Barons ult pulls is too strong on the stacks. If you are at 2/3rds range of the cone outward, and you dont have a leap, its impossible to run from it, even with beads. I think the additional SUCC on higher stacks needs to be removed, making beads a true counter to this, just as other ults like hades.

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