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    Quote Originally Posted by AIGuardian View Post
    Stone of Gaia help knock ups.
    It doesn't cleanse them. It only gives a heal after being hit (Usually, the knock ups you're concerned about aren't ones you actually live for 10 seconds after being hit by them... I.e. Sobek pluck, Herc pull, Awilix knock up > ult combo, Cerb ult, Susano pull, Tyr's Fearless Assault, Xing Tian's ult etc)

    It's a pretty mediocre "Counter" item that's really only notable for its raw stats, the large amounts of health and the regen (On that note, I'm curious about how the CD hasn't been lowered since they removed the old "Prevent a Pull/Knock Up/Knockback/Grab" passive like, 30-40s seems more reasonable for this soft-counter passive)

    And for those mention anti cc items ... I said form the start(because I know people dont read or think) ...
    "Please dont answer beads thats a anti all cc im talking a short cd item thats just anti stun."
    People do read. They read that you said "Please don't answer beads" and no-one answered beads.

    If you bothered to think and actually put "Please don't answer items that are generic anti-CC" then people wouldn't have answered the various items that work against stuns but also work against a variety of other CC's too.

    IF ITS AN ANTI ALL CC ITS NOT REALLY A ANTI STUN ITEM WHICH IS THE TOPIC BECAUSE USUALLY THOSE ANTI ALL ITEMS HAVE LONG CDS.
    Implying that Stone of Gaia's 60s CD isn't long compared to Spirit Robe's 15s CD?

    Magi's is barely longer CD than Gaia's at 70s.

    It's very likely that an anti-stun item would also have ~50-70s CD too. Since that's the whole point of the long CD's, you don't get to just negate all the CC a team has by picking up an item, instead you just get extra buffers that you play around.

    Like, you can get beads with 160s CD, upgrade to 130s CD and buy a Relic Dagger to get 100s CD beads.
    Grab a Magi's Cloak for an extra CC avoidance on a 70s CD.
    Then if you're still getting CC'd to death, you can pick up a Spirit Robe to mitigate CC chains every 15s.
    If all THAT isn't enough... Git gud and stop walking into CC heavy teams alone?

    Also, just because it's "Anti-all CC" doesn't mean it isn't anti-stun.

    Anti-all CC doesn't cover knock ups, hence there is a dedicated item for it.

    Anti-Hard CC doesn't cover slows, hence there is a dedicated item for it (It's also less potent and more abundant, hence the lower 30s CD on the Winged Blade effect)

    Anti-Hard CC covers stuns, hence there is no dedicated item for it, since there are already items in place that deal with it.
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    Quote Originally Posted by AIGuardian View Post
    IF ITS AN ANTI ALL CC ITS NOT REALLY A ANTI STUN ITEM WHICH IS THE TOPIC BECAUSE USUALLY THOSE ANTI ALL ITEMS HAVE LONG CDS.
    It is still an anti stun item. Just because it does other things as well doesn't mean it doesn't handle stuns. Or did I miss something? Yes the cooldown is longish. You are not supposed to run around this game without being able to get CCed.
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    Quote Originally Posted by RockerBaby View Post
    It is still an anti stun item. Just because it does other things as well doesn't mean it doesn't handle stuns. Or did I miss something? Yes the cooldown is longish. You are not supposed to run around this game without being able to get CCed.
    Missing the point again. Most if not all CC have a way to counter on a short cd. Stuns do not.

    (beads was merely an example.)
    Oh and Relana before You start giving basic info again. please stay on the obvious topic stated previously thanks.

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    Quote Originally Posted by AIGuardian View Post
    Missing the point again. Most if not all CC have a way to counter on a short cd. Stuns do not.

    (beads was merely an example.)
    Oh and Relana before You start giving basic info again. please stay on the obvious topic stated previously thanks.
    Where does Rel change topics. This seems to be a favorite statement of yours, regardless of applicability.

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    Quote Originally Posted by AIGuardian View Post
    Most if not all CC have a way to counter on a short cd. Stuns do not.
    Tell me of this secret you know. How you counter most CC? Lets say silence its not a stun, what allows you to counter this on a short cd?
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    Quote Originally Posted by RockerBaby View Post
    Tell me of this secret you know. How you counter most CC? Lets say silence its not a stun, what allows you to counter this on a short cd?
    Silence, knockups, knock backs, pulls, cripples as a whole. Besides the 2 gods who have counters to like, 2 of those (anubis for knockups, ares for knockbacks, and Cabraken for roots) :l

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