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    Quote Originally Posted by Goobis View Post
    You being unable to counter him =/= him not having counter picks
    His stun = His heal = His Ulti
    That's all he needs, its the same with Anubis aswell, and I know you got Anubis diamond.

    Anubis - Stun, - CC - and Ulti, dead. (and if not dead, then you need to back to base, rinse and repeat that every 20 seconds.)

    so yeah boo, you tried it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Schimeon View Post
    His stun = His heal = His Ulti
    That's all he needs, its the same with Anubis aswell, and I know you got Anubis diamond.

    Anubis - Stun, - CC - and Ulti, dead. (and if not dead, then you need to back to base, rinse and repeat that every 20 seconds.)

    so yeah boo, you tried it.
    That doesn't mean he has no counter picks. You're not even addressing what Magic said.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Schimeon View Post
    His stun = His heal = His Ulti
    That's all he needs, its the same with Anubis aswell, and I know you got Anubis diamond.

    Anubis - Stun, - CC - and Ulti, dead. (and if not dead, then you need to back to base, rinse and repeat that every 20 seconds.)

    so yeah boo, you tried it.
    This doesn't even have anything to do with what i said.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Goobis View Post
    This doesn't even have anything to do with what i said.
    Then you don't understand what I mean.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Schimeon View Post
    Then you don't understand what I mean.
    Then you might as well explain. If you don't, then we can only assume you can't.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Schimeon View Post
    Then you don't understand what I mean.
    I don't think you understand what you mean.

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    I think Baron ult is still slightly to strong, maybe reduce duration slightly?

    As for counter picks:

    Hou Yi (I'm even low level Hou Yi but I have no problems vs barons)
    Vamana, haven't tried but in theory
    Thanatos, ok matchup not super ez though
    Agni, works really well
    Thoth, works really well
    Cerberus, works decent, ok match up
    Ullr, works really well

    there are probably more
    Last edited by RockerBaby; 08-16-2018 at 09:42 AM.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Saerireth View Post
    They did. That's why there's internal testing and there's a week of PTS. Live servers will never be able to be replicated.
    Nothing about him is gamebreaking, definitely nowhere near Morrigan's bugs when she was released. There's never going to be a god release that won't have its bugs. That's the way that programming is.
    They can delay the patch to a longer period to have a better test t than trying to rush one every 2 weeks though.

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    Quote Originally Posted by galvay View Post
    if we need to counter instead of getting fixes, then sorry but it's not doing their best. You always defend every bug and dev fuckups no matter how bad they are. I'm guessing you're one of them, but can't officially admit it.
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    Thats exactly what I said before she always trying to counter people for helping smite in our point of view. Must be one of them.

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    Quote Originally Posted by RockerBaby View Post
    I think Baron ult is still slightly to strong, maybe reduce duration slightly?

    As for counter picks:

    Hou Yi (I'm even low level Hou Yi but I have no problems vs barons)
    Vamana, haven't tried but in theory
    Thanatos, ok matchup not super ez though
    Agni, works really well
    Thoth, works really well
    Cerberus, works decent, ok match up
    Ullr, works really well

    there are probably more
    Its less about how you can counterplay the ultimate and more so about how much the ultimate can do in one instance.

    Sure its super easy to just jump/dash/tele away from it, but depending on how you use it you can either cripple a single person entirely or spread your passive to the entire team in one fight and make every target proc your bonus effects.

    But the nerf coming next patch that cuts his speed by an additional 20% and his Hysteria amount by 3-21 is a very good nerf.

    Another issue with Baron's balance entirely is the current meta allowing pseudo sustain/healers to build bulky and work easily as magical bruisers in the solo-lane. Once this gets mitigated Baron will lose a decent amount of effectiveness when he opts for a bulkier set. The amount of utility bloat in his kit is much better suited for him as a bruiser focus rather than going full burst.
    Last edited by Goobis; 08-19-2018 at 02:39 PM.
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