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    It's both, hysteria takes too long to start decaying and when it does start, it takes too long to deplete. No matter if your hysteria was at 10 or 60, there is no sped up reduction at all.

    What's actually interesting to think about is that Baron IS fundamentally broken and breaks the game; Hysteria in its current form has zero counters and no counter play other than running away and wasting time. CC Immunity doesn't stop it, Aegis doesn't stop it, Shell, Magis, Spirit Robe, etc doesn't stop it, healing doesn't remove or reduce it, shields don't cleanse it, hell even getting revived by Khepri doesn't remove it. The only option you have to lose Hysteria is to run away from Baron, that's broken as fuck.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Goobis View Post
    It's both, hysteria takes too long to start decaying and when it does start, it takes too long to deplete. No matter if your hysteria was at 10 or 60, there is no sped up reduction at all.

    What's actually interesting to think about is that Baron IS fundamentally broken and breaks the game; Hysteria in its current form has zero counters and no counter play other than running away and wasting time. CC Immunity doesn't stop it, Aegis doesn't stop it, Shell, Magis, Spirit Robe, etc doesn't stop it, healing doesn't remove or reduce it, shields don't cleanse it, hell even getting revived by Khepri doesn't remove it. The only option you have to lose Hysteria is to run away from Baron, that's broken as fuck.
    TBH it's a god-exclusive mechanic, so I can understand the oversight, but you'd think SOMETHING would remove it. Like, you know, dying, which cleanses damn near everything else in the game. Hell, they could even make it a more interesting mechanic: if the god dies while at max hysteria, they have some debuff or something like that; or something can cleanse it and it has a certain effect.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Goobis View Post

    Also the ultimate is flat out broken and needs nerfing ASAP before they can even start with nerfing Baron in other areas that need it. If you don't have a dash/leap/beads you're dead, its practically an inescapable execute vacuum. Couple in that it also stacks hysteria and he takes fucking half the normal damage from anything while using it for 3.5s and its absolutely not ok.
    I mean i survived his ultimate multiple times throughout a game with Cerberus and i only had 1 defensive item...(mantle of discord). I also shut him down with my breath and a gem of iso since he doesn't have an escape. Sure if he gets his heal off he gets a sprint, that just means don't let him get you with his spirits if you have over 30 hysteria. It was annoying how often he'd save himself from my ult by using his own ult though, but a large amount of gods can do that.

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    Cant wait for this broken god to be nerfed into oblivion
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    Quote Originally Posted by RainbowSplat View Post
    Cant wait for this broken god to be nerfed into oblivion
    Watch him get buffed, i think he could take a small nerf but i don't want him to go to oblivion... He's like swagni, only as his default skin.

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    Quote Originally Posted by damienmc90 View Post
    I mean i survived his ultimate multiple times throughout a game with Cerberus and i only had 1 defensive item...(mantle of discord). I also shut him down with my breath and a gem of iso since he doesn't have an escape. Sure if he gets his heal off he gets a sprint, that just means don't let him get you with his spirits if you have over 30 hysteria. It was annoying how often he'd save himself from my ult by using his own ult though, but a large amount of gods can do that.
    You keep saying don't let him get you when you have over 30 hysteria like it's an easy thing to do. Again, all Baron has to do is hit you with the 3 and you'll already be at 40/60 hysteria in one ability.

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    Quote Originally Posted by damienmc90 View Post
    I mean i survived his ultimate multiple times throughout a game with Cerberus and i only had 1 defensive item...(mantle of discord). I also shut him down with my breath and a gem of iso since he doesn't have an escape. Sure if he gets his heal off he gets a sprint, that just means don't let him get you with his spirits if you have over 30 hysteria. It was annoying how often he'd save himself from my ult by using his own ult though, but a large amount of gods can do that.
    Except you had a leap. Cerberus is a direct counter to BS but counterpicks shouldn't be mandatory for beating a god, and if your team has even one dude without an escape, that guy is fresh meat for Baron Sansundertale.
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    Just lower stacks on each power all should give 1 stack per hit so if you hit with both beams of 1 that person has 2 stacks. The snake dot should give 1 stack per tick damage. Ultimate 1 stack per damage. Just as his basic gives 1 stack. Maybe make the ultimate were he isn't cc so he can be punished.
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    Quote Originally Posted by SirKeksalot View Post
    Except you had a leap. Cerberus is a direct counter to BS but counterpicks shouldn't be mandatory for beating a god, and if your team has even one dude without an escape, that guy is fresh meat for Baron Sansundertale.
    Yes immobile gods are easy targets, but they are like that for most opponents.... Baron himself has very conditional mobility, and that's why immobile gods tend to need babysitting even before Baron came out

    @Perplexual no man, just no. No CC immunity during a channeled ultimate? There is a reason every single channeled ult has CC immunity, and if every ability only gave 1 stack of hysteria they'd have to drastically reduce max stacks of hysteria.

    Baron's 3 gives 40 stacks of hysteria but it isn't instant, and if he hits you with it just be ready to dodge his spirits to deny him his heal(usually he uses his lasers anyway which doesn't matter nearly as much).

    The main thing i don't like about hysteria is 60 counts as max right so he gets his 25% damage buff, however i could have sworn I've had over 70 stacks before so unless I'm just mistaken he can over stack which of course is going to make it take forever for stacks to where off. If 60 is max, don't let stacks go over 60.

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    Baron Samedi will be nerfed in the next patch, or so HiRez says.

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