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Thread: 2-3 Years and Ao Kuang's Ult Failure Rate is Still A Deal Breaker

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    Quote Originally Posted by damienmc90 View Post
    Hence why i said I'd support increasing the execute threshold to 40%.

    You can't give him cooldown reduction like that or it'd be overpowered. It needs counters, cooldowns like that would mean it wouldn't be countered by beads/aegis etc, it would make people waste them and still die in a few seconds anyway. Maybe in arena they could run back to their fountain in 15 seconds, but they certainly couldn't in conquest.
    I don't think it'd be too over povvered. think about it. its only guaranteed 1 person kills versus other ults that have team-wipe potential, AND I propose it being 5 or 15 seconds so that the flee-er can get away and Ao's ult can be used elsewhere versus waiting a full minute and a half. its not even like people are timing it with caution, since you can tell Ao's ult versus a poseidon ult. I feel like if they dub Ao's ult, then the time should allow you to escape and allow him to use it again on someone else if he can manage to get that threshold

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    Quote Originally Posted by PagodaPandite View Post
    I don't think it'd be too over povvered. think about it. its only guaranteed 1 person kills versus other ults that have team-wipe potential, AND I propose it being 5 or 15 seconds so that the flee-er can get away and Ao's ult can be used elsewhere versus waiting a full minute and a half. its not even like people are timing it with caution, since you can tell Ao's ult versus a poseidon ult. I feel like if they dub Ao's ult, then the time should allow you to escape and allow him to use it again on someone else if he can manage to get that threshold
    That's just it, in conquest they CAN'T escape with just 15 seconds. He can either stalk you and you die regardless, or you are forced to attempt to recall while under tower(which he or whoever is actually in that lane can easily prevent with pokes).

    Not to mention, this allows him to force people to recall as soon as they approach his threshold. Even if they have a beads/aegis they only have 15 seconds to recover so they can't just use potions. Solo lane tanks who'd normally be able to stick around a lot longer would be forced to back far more often, it is bad enough they already have to grab beads instead of teleport glyph.

    Again, it might not matter as much in other modes but for conquest specifically it matters a lot.

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    Quote Originally Posted by PagodaPandite View Post
    I don't think it'd be too over povvered.
    Well, you're wrong. It has no other counters. End of story.
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    Not to mention, his ult is also a knockup. If it only had a 15 second cooldown when it doesn't execute he could use it as just a knockup on purpose to interrupt abilities and deal decent damage because hey it's just a 15 second cooldown.

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    Quote Originally Posted by damienmc90 View Post
    Not to mention, his ult is also a knockup. If it only had a 15 second cooldown when it doesn't execute he could use it as just a knockup on purpose to interrupt abilities and deal decent damage because hey it's just a 15 second cooldown.
    It's actually a banish but point stays the same.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Outso187 View Post
    It's actually a banish but point stays the same.
    If it is a banish when you aren't executing people, then how are them Loki's stealing my kill so i go up as a dragon but don't eat them and get a stack of my passive....

    But yeah still the same point

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    Quote Originally Posted by Outso187 View Post
    It's actually a banish but point stays the same.
    The Ult is not a Banish.

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    I know! how about we make it almost unblockable, give him an easy stun, and make the execute 90% instead of 30%. oh wait... thats ne zha.

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    but on a serious note there are serious problems with his ult. people can also leap out of it without cc immunity.

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    Quote Originally Posted by AzeHC View Post
    but on a serious note there are serious problems with his ult. people can also leap out of it without cc immunity.
    If timed right, yes. Wait until leap is down.

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