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    Quote Originally Posted by Yuls View Post
    Exactly! If you really want an early game crit item you should get either PS or DB since both help you box in lane unlike Rage which has less power/crit than DB, and PS having the same power/crit chance for less gold with one of the best item passives in the game. Yeah, makes sense to nerf Rage this patch! But don't worry, we gonna nerf PS next patch because crit is too op! XD
    Not to forget that PS also provides you with a pretty nice +15% attack speed, so there are absolutely better options to look for early on better than Rage. Pretty much every crit item else, in fact.
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    Quote Originally Posted by NervousCrysis View Post
    Not to forget that PS also provides you with a pretty nice +15% attack speed, so there are absolutely better options to look for early on better than Rage. Pretty much every crit item else, in fact.
    That's exactly the thing, attack speed.

    Back in S0 when Rage gave 20 Power, 30% Crit, 15% AS, and the Crit+ passive, it was worth it because even tho you had low amounts of power, the 15% attack speed and high crit helped you scale into lategame and then also had high amounts of power and pen to make up for it. But now, it is only the same power and 10% more crit than what it was originally. At this point its not Rage, it is a worse version of the original Malice (40% Crit, 30 Power, 9% AS, No Passive).

    Crit as a whole (outside of Poison Star) is now just considerably weaker than it used to be, so that doesn't really help Rage's cause either.
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    Quote Originally Posted by NervousCrysis View Post
    I think the change in the passive is good but I don't understand the power nerf. This will be a very viable item if you don't nerf the power it provides. 20 physical power is too low for a crit item. You can't get away with it on Posioned Star because of the attack speed and the strong passive it gives, but that's not the same case for Rage.

    Just don't nerf the damage.
    i kinda agree , but 40 % crit chance is still huge , so simply u build it with trans and death bringer , rage is for gods who have high base attack speed or buff , if u understand ... like arti she already have 15% crit chance with rage DB she will have 80% crit chance , ofc usually u will build dev instead of trans but even with dev building only 2 crit items will make more sense

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    Quote Originally Posted by NervousCrysis View Post
    Rage is not a good early game item, much less for Artemis. You seem to forget it costs 2.5 K gold and only provides 20 power and 20% crit chance before it evolves. It is an item you want to get for 4th or 5th slot, when fights come and you are able to stack it. If the enemies know what they do, you're not getting kills early with Artemis, so getting an item that relies on this to be effective early is not worthy. Precisely as Artemis can critically strike more reliably than others, you want an item that provides you with a strong effect when it happens such as Poisoned Star or Wind Demon, and not Rage that has no effect. I'm not saying it is not a viable option for Artemis, even if I consider there are better ones, but definitely not the best early on.
    u are right , but rage is still decent on arti its perfect 5th item for her , building rage into trans and Db makes most sense , ofc WD or PS are still option but her dps wont change much , its all about crit chance and attack speed u want to have and u can reach , arti already have high base attack speed( buff ) so WD is almost unnecessary , u simply want to build more power or pen , so build will be , ninja or warrior tabi , transcendence , DB, executioner ,rage , now u can build asi ( cheaper option with warrior tabi ) or u can also build DG and stack it before transc , with ninja tabi .- u will have 80 % crit chance with passive and 275 physical power ( on top of her base dmge ) , so dps with this build is crazy and sustain as well

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    Quote Originally Posted by MArBuSe View Post
    u are right , but rage is still decent on arti its perfect 5th item for her , building rage into trans and Db makes most sense , ofc WD or PS are still option but her dps wont change much , its all about crit chance and attack speed u want to have and u can reach , arti already have high base attack speed( buff ) so WD is almost unnecessary , u simply want to build more power or pen , so build will be , ninja or warrior tabi , transcendence , DB, executioner ,rage , now u can build asi ( cheaper option with warrior tabi ) or u can also build DG and stack it before transc , with ninja tabi .- u will have 80 % crit chance with passive and 275 physical power ( on top of her base dmge ) , so dps with this build is crazy and sustain as well
    I didn't say Rage is bad for Artemis, I specifically said is bad early.
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    TBH you do not need that much power to get benefit from crits.
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