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    Quote Originally Posted by SkizoSkilz View Post
    Because they are auto attack based, it's useful on every AA mage too, but it's useless on most Assassins.
    Quote Originally Posted by damienmc90 View Post
    That's kinda the point though, it is finally useful on aoe life steal.
    For the record, I want lifesteal to be viable on every damage-dealing class (including warriors/guardians if they go full or mostly damage).

    Why? Because it's a really fun mechanic for the user, and it has multiple counters (antiheal, Upgraded Ankh, hard CC, sheer burst, etc) so it isn't broken or all that unfun to fight against...as long as you can build it too and do just as well.

    Thus, I want lifesteal to be universally viable.

    I want Soul Eater to actually have useful lifesteal so ability assassins can use it and have fun with it too, btw.

    But most of all finally typical mages can build lifesteal and actually benefit from it.

    And no, building Bancrofts in S4 so you heal 200 hp for killing an entire wave of minions is utterly pathetic and moreso is practically negative lifesteal in an actual god fight.
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    Quote Originally Posted by SeventhArchon View Post
    Calling Season 5 Thanatos and Nemesis overpowered is an excellent way to invalidate your entire post.
    You must not watch or play in high level ranked games then because they get picked and banned all the time. Plus, Than and Nem are both very strong right now in ranked when they get played. I don't care about normal Conquest games or gold- level games where you can pretty much play anything without getting punished for it.

    Also, Nem is one of the most brain dead gods in the game so it's not hard to be good on her. You can't miss with her kit unless you are trying to!

    Chronos is far from the worst mage in the game with mage items being really good right now. And Sol is really strong right now for the same reasons but has a better kit to ADC with. She will be even better next patch with DB and hunter LS getting nerfed along with Chronos and Freya.

    I'm pretty sure crit was dead for almost all of S4 and I don't think making it worse in S5 is going to help with that. They need to change the other crit items next patch after this DB change to help crit be better and more worth buying in S5 over how it was in S4. We even got a new item to build against crit in S5 that they could buff to also help against crit.

    There is a lot of stuff they could change for crit and I'm looking forward to next patch for what they do for it!
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    Quote Originally Posted by Lyralis View Post
    For the record, I want lifesteal to be viable on every damage-dealing class (including warriors/guardians if they go full or mostly damage).

    Why? Because it's a really fun mechanic for the user, and it has multiple counters (antiheal, Upgraded Ankh, hard CC, sheer burst, etc) so it isn't broken or all that unfun to fight against...as long as you can build it too and do just as well.

    Thus, I want lifesteal to be universally viable.

    I want Soul Eater to actually have useful lifesteal so ability assassins can use it and have fun with it too, btw.

    But most of all finally typical mages can build lifesteal and actually benefit from it.

    And no, building Bancrofts in S4 so you heal 200 hp for killing an entire wave of minions is utterly pathetic and moreso is practically negative lifesteal in an actual god fight.
    I agree with this a lot! LS is both fun and has a lot of ways to play around it. It also can let you get away with some hype plays sometimes! Same with crit, but I'm not sure how you could make crit a thing on a warrior though. XD

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    Quote Originally Posted by Yuls View Post
    I agree with this a lot! LS is both fun and has a lot of ways to play around it. It also can let you get away with some hype plays sometimes! Same with crit, but I'm not sure how you could make crit a thing on a warrior though. XD
    1. Give a warrior in-hand crit chance and/or bonuses for successful crits so they have incentive to build crits instead of just pen for damage
    2. That's it you're fucking done, go home and get the succ
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    Quote Originally Posted by Lyralis View Post
    For the record, I want lifesteal to be viable on every damage-dealing class (including warriors/guardians if they go full or mostly damage).

    Why? Because it's a really fun mechanic for the user, and it has multiple counters (antiheal, Upgraded Ankh, hard CC, sheer burst, etc) so it isn't broken or all that unfun to fight against...as long as you can build it too and do just as well.

    Thus, I want lifesteal to be universally viable.

    I want Soul Eater to actually have useful lifesteal so ability assassins can use it and have fun with it too, btw.

    But most of all finally typical mages can build lifesteal and actually benefit from it.

    And no, building Bancrofts in S4 so you heal 200 hp for killing an entire wave of minions is utterly pathetic and moreso is practically negative lifesteal in an actual god fight.
    Idk man, I really, really dislike lifesteal and find it frustrating. That's the reason I hate hunters the most, not because of their damage or whatnot. This feels just like Bracer meta you could get anti healing against Bracer too but it was still frustrating to play against, same here.

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    Quote Originally Posted by SirKeksalot View Post
    1. Give a warrior in-hand crit chance and/or bonuses for successful crits so they have incentive to build crits instead of just pen for damage
    2. That's it you're fucking done, go home and get the succ
    I like it! Next warrior god better be a crit warrior! That would be my favorite warrior to play!

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    Quote Originally Posted by SkizoSkilz View Post
    Idk man, I really, really dislike lifesteal and find it frustrating. That's the reason I hate hunters the most, not because of their damage or whatnot. This feels just like Bracer meta you could get anti healing against Bracer too but it was still frustrating to play against, same here.
    I can see why it'd be frustrating but I'd prefer fights to not be over in 2 seconds (aka season 4 squishies 2-shotting and being 2-shotted). Lifesteal helps to prolong fights but is only useful for squishy damage characters meaning it isn't a tank meta.

    Tanks last a decent time already but now squishies can too so fights again don't end in the blink of an eye.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Yuls View Post
    I like it! Next warrior god better be a crit warrior! That would be my favorite warrior to play!
    I feel like it would be something of the opposite. Basically, burst assassins, who are already shopping decently, would burst down a target like they after already doing, but instead off being shutdown, by good c.f., would see more survivability after allining and just clapping squishies. A good example is mid tier Loki players. Usually, they all in off their ult, get a kill, the die. Instead, they could get good lifesteal and survive through the return burst and not be punished for being greedy and bad positioning.

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    If people really have that much of a problem with lifesteal in terms of being annoying to fight against, just make out of fight lifesteal better and in fight lifesteal worse.

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    Quote Originally Posted by TheGodlyFist View Post
    If people really have that much of a problem with lifesteal in terms of being annoying to fight against, just make out of fight lifesteal better and in fight lifesteal worse.
    Or better yet, they can just build anti heal. Its existed for years and has always been good against life steal.

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