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    Quote Originally Posted by GameVeteranAzure View Post
    Turn him back into a Guardian. At least then when his damage was horrible it made sense.
    Hades damage isn’t horrible tho...

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    As someone mainly playing Arena I like to pick up basically this build:
    Void Stone, Mythical, Boots (no matter which ones actually), SotM, Typhons, and then a item basically free to pick out of a selection:
    Shamans Ring for 10% more damage if the enemy cant bead or otherwise escape the ult, Tahuti(for the 1-3 finishing move on cowards fleeing battle), Warlocks if you want more HP, GoI if you want to chase enemies a lot, Bancroft for the low-life-comebacks, Chronos for even more ulting, Spear of Destruction(if thats the name, I forget all the time) for easy escapes after mad chases for a kill or after a botched 1v5 engage where you only got 1 kill, there are quite some selections that work with him.

    The only problem I see, is that his design is still pretty much guardian-y. With a lot of defensive capabilities and with his ult mainly being a setup for Ult-Combos. Which quickly makes him not dealing damage not a big deal in a good team.
    I think Hades was just not designed with "I will carry this on my own" on the mind of the Devs and Designers.

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    While sustain is stronger in s5, it's still a burst meta, and hades just isn't a nuke mage. When ttk is increased, hades will shine again.

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    well he is a mage that picks his spots for damage. if you can his combo, he does a lot of damage and can apply alot of item effects. if play him kinda like Hel. he's not to start a fight, but to attack mid engagement
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    Quote Originally Posted by GameVeteranAzure View Post
    Turn him back into a Guardian. At least then when his damage was horrible it made sense.
    Except Hades when guardian class was always played mid/solo as a full damage mage because he chunks.
    What do I put here now?

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    I think maybe the s5 meta hurts him, you die a bit quicker I think and maybe it translates poorly to hades.

    I also think you just can't pick Hades in any game you need the synergy in team. A mobile team that can come in and chase after your ult, preferably another big team fight ult. Hades forces beads so get an odin in the mix who can force ghost and its starting to look better. I'm far from a great Hades so what picks are best and not good I can't really say but in my experience he is kinda limited in where he works best. I mean just having a silence (well and ult) for peel ain't super good guardian wise.

    Also some picks just makes life real hard for Hades. Kukulkan, Hel, Ho yi. Are just some that I feel really makes playing Hades harder.

    That said he is a niche pick that can work really well in some matches but in others there are simply much better picks.
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    Quote Originally Posted by GameVeteranAzure View Post
    Turn him back into a Guardian. At least then when his damage was horrible it made sense.
    1. His damage isn't horrible.
    2. Most guardians hit like magical warriors.
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    His abilities are too reminiscent of his former guardian role. Imo he needs a rework and not just a role shift with some buffs/nerfs to power and/or defenses.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Saerireth View Post
    His abilities are too reminiscent of his former guardian role. Imo he needs a rework and not just a role shift with some buffs/nerfs to power and/or defenses.
    only rework i can think of it making his 3 a range AoE instead of a body pulse, but then he's losing out on his heal unless you rework that too, and by doing that he's just another Scylla.
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    Quote Originally Posted by SirKeksalot View Post
    1. His damage isn't horrible.
    2. Most guardians hit like magical warriors.
    When he was a Guardian this wasn't entirely true.

    Short of building him full damage guardian (as someone else mentioned) he didn't really have the punch that other guardians at the time did.

    Hades was in a weird gray zone.
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