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Thread: Thoughts on Cerb?

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    Feel like Ares 2.0, fun but not outrageous.

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    I posted thoughts in another thread but I sum it upp here as well.

    60 Prot shred is on paper very strong, personally though I haven't really felt it the way you feel magus, makes me wonder if it stacks up the debuff as it is supposed to. Maybe cause I get silenced and stunned a lot while using the 2. Dunno. Othertimes the 1 hits hard after you 2ed someone. I do not really think 1 needs tuning on dmg, if they nerf the 2 prot shred it will be in line for sure.

    The 1 is good if you can hit it at its optimal stun area, but its really hard to do so I think. Makes his peel extremely unreliable. If he can initiate with it though 2.2 sec stun is really good.

    3 is nice, ok dmg and nice heal.

    4 is just another ares ult pretty much. It works as you'd expect.

    I think he is pretty nicely balanced, probably will see a nerf on his 2 prot shred as time moves on.

    I'd like to see a slightly bigger aoe stun area though for the 1 as it is now it makes him very hard to play and high skill cap. I could personally trade an easier to hit stun for shorter range on the 1, while the long range is nice I rather have a more reliable stun.

    With current kit he makes more sense being a warrior or a mage, his lack of defense for team makes him a shitty solo tank / guardian in the way most guardians work. He needs team mates that can provide peel for team if you draft him.
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    He kinda feels like Xing Tian. Some regen, a jump and an AOE throw.

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    I don't think you should be able to hit people with they are up in his ult but that's just me.

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    I think he's really strong in high coordinated games with comms, but I'm yet to encounter a good player playing him anyway.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Atlasfailed View Post
    He kinda feels like Xing Tian. Some regen, a jump and an AOE throw.
    xings peel is much better though and with spear on xing he can get almost the same shred. cerb has better sustain if he can land his kit as he wants and also his ult is slightly better then xings. Someone compared to ares but ares has better peel and much better team def tnx to his shield aura no jump on ares though.

    I think he's really strong in high coordinated games with comms, but I'm yet to encounter a good player playing him anyway.
    yeah its not a pick and win God like other releases have been, he has a fairly high skill cap due to how his 1 works.
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    From what I have seen so far he's fine - he has a speciality which is shredding protections and stop healing but he looses out in other areas. He doesn't scale with power well so he can't really be built full damage. He lacks a cripple or a big area effect stun/root/mez/freeze/whatever outside of his ult so he's not that hard to get away from or that good at peeling for team mates.

    In comparison to Ares, well his chains cripple and slow, Cerb only slows. That cripple is key.

    Hence mages/assassins/hunters would prefer to face Cerb to Ares as getting crippled stuffs them while they have barely any magic protection to lose in the first place so who cares, but warriors and bruiser guardians won't enjoy facing Cerb as they don't want to jump away but stick in the fight and loosing their protections and sustain messes that up.
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    Quote Originally Posted by DeathByDribbling View Post
    From what I have seen so far he's fine - he has a speciality which is shredding protections and stop healing but he looses out in other areas. He doesn't scale with power well so he can't really be built full damage.
    Okay I have to stop you there.

    87.5% scaling is definitely enough reason to build damage.

    So is 150% scaling on his heal on a typical minion wave.

    And 60 shred is way too high, it means that building a defense item on mages is utterly useless against him, as he'll just true damage you regardless (30 + 60 = 90 (mantle of discord). 90 - penboot = 80 - void = 60 - cerb 2 = 0)
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    Anubis sit and spray ability roots him from the ult. I wonder if terra work the same way? I think ares flames might also I remember having a rough game vs an ares.
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    I think he's strong on some levels, weak on others.

    He struggles in certain match-ups, Fenrir being one of them. The issue is, his ultimate is particularly much weaker than Ares', simply because, if you have a knock-up immunity in your God's kit, Thor - Berserker Barrage, Fenrir - Brutalize, Tyr - Fearless, Guan Yu - Taolu Assault, to name a few; his ultimate is trivial to virtually useless. His stun on his first ability and protection shreds are particularly strong, outside of that, I think Cerberus is okay. He's a good situational pick, against a high sustain comp particularly, but not good into everything.
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