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    Cerberus Passive Interactions

    So me and Kek tested some stuff with Cerberus's passive.

    Cerberus's passive for dummies: 20% antiheal aura within 40 ft.

    In addition, within those same 40ft whenever an enemy heals (specifics below) Cerberus will gain 40% of that heal.

    First off: If the enemy is affected by antiheal, including Cerberus's, it does NOT affect how much Cerberus gets healed for.

    Cerberus heals for 40% of enemy's healing before antiheal (we forgot to test, but presumably what he heals for isn't buffed by an enemy's Asclepius).

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    Cerb's passive is affected by him buying Asclepius or his team buying Asclepius. It's also affected by enemy antiheal.

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    Health Potions proc Cerb's passive.

    Health Chalices proc Cerb's passive.

    Mana Potions/Chalices on Cu Chulainn proc Cerb's passive.

    All forms of Lifesteal proc Cerb's passive. Including when he's not the one getting hit. Yes, Cerb heals from his teammates taking damage, isn't that cool? (assuming enemy attacking has built lifesteal)

    War Flag procs Cerb's passive.

    Watcher's Gift procs Cerb's passive. (I feel like this will be good when laning against the enemy Support)

    Vamp Shroud procs Cerb's passive.

    Death's Toll procs Cerb's passive.

    Meditation procs Cerb's passive.

    Soul Eater's ability lifesteal also procs Cerb's passive.

    Flat heals (IE numbers like 30/32/34/36/38 etc, as well as scalings off of magical or physical power) proc Cerb's passive. (Ra 3, Erlang ult's flat part)

    Hercules's unique %heal based on damage taken procs it.

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    What doesn't proc it-

    Heals based on a % of max or missing HP don't proc it. (Ah Puch passive, Nezha 2, Sol 1, Chronos 2, Erlang ult's % part)

    Bracer also doesn't proc it (because it's a relic and a % heal, I guess....????).

    Glad Shield doesn't proc it.

    Fire Giant buff doesn't proc it.

    Mail of Renewal doesn't proc it.

    Gaia doesn't proc it.

    Bumbas doesn't proc it.

    Fountain doesn't proc it.

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    His passive procs Lotus Crown and Shield of Regrowth.

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    Ah Puch's 3 does proc the extra damage and stun if Cerb heals via his passive. It's quite nasty imo (Remember Ah Puch + Chiron passive interaction? Yeah. That but you have even less control) but only likely to come up in game modes outside of Conquest, so it's irrelevant.

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    I probably forgot some stuff but here's the main things.
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    That's a crazy passive then! I figured it was only ability heals. He's going to be an insane solo laner! Thanks for testing that!

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    Quote Originally Posted by ChrisRobare View Post
    That's a crazy passive then! I figured it was only ability heals. He's going to be an insane solo laner! Thanks for testing that!
    He'd also work well in support, either with ADC or Mid.

    If with Adc, he'll reduce enemy Adc's lifesteal and Death's Toll, as well as enemy Supp's Watchers and HP pots.

    While also benefiting from that himself.

    Same thing if he's in mid but just with enemy Supp's Watchers and Mid/Sup's pots.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Lyralis View Post
    He'd also work well in support, either with ADC or Mid.

    If with Adc, he'll reduce enemy Adc's lifesteal and Death's Toll, as well as enemy Supp's Watchers and HP pots.

    While also benefiting from that himself.

    Same thing if he's in mid but just with enemy Supp's Watchers and Mid/Sup's pots.
    I know for a fact that I'm taking him into support (his abilities are designed for it!) just like I do with Zhong, Hades, and Isis.

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    I'm so hype eeeeee

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    Quote Originally Posted by ChrisRobare View Post
    I know for a fact that I'm taking him into support (his abilities are designed for it!) just like I do with Zhong, Hades, and Isis.
    I feel like he could work equally well as Support or Solo.
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    Did you by any chance check out antiheal works with him? It says it reduces healing by 20% I don't know if that stacks with antiheal or it sets the new healed amount as base for antiheal to scale off of.

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    Yep sounds as broken as I thought. He is going to be a monster in assault. That passive will take a nerf by 5.2 at the latest.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ChrisRobare View Post
    I know for a fact that I'm taking him into support (his abilities are designed for it!) just like I do with Zhong, Hades, and Isis.
    I'm taking him into faux-duel(custom 1v1 with friends, set up like an actual duel). I want to see how he fares when he doesn't have a team.

    Regardless, Aphrodite just got a new worst enemy. Go ahead Aphro, TRY to heal your teammates. I like that the stolen healing is before anti heal, you can apply anti heal to the enemy so when they try to heal up they end up healing you more than themselves. And with Aphro, you could be stealing heals from her AND her soulmate at the same time...

    I hope they don't change his passive at all... It is so... Unique xD

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    Quote Originally Posted by damienmc90 View Post
    I'm taking him into faux-duel(custom 1v1 with friends, set up like an actual duel). I want to see how he fares when he doesn't have a team.

    Regardless, Aphrodite just got a new worst enemy. Go ahead Aphro, TRY to heal your teammates. I like that the stolen healing is before anti heal, you can apply anti heal to the enemy so when they try to heal up they end up healing you more than themselves. And with Aphro, you could be stealing heals from her AND her soulmate at the same time...

    I hope they don't change his passive at all... It is so... Unique xD
    Yes I love that passive! A true counter to healers!

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