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    Hades Ult ideas

    As it stands now Hades is in the middle ground. In the right hands hes great but honestly as someone that loves the character he really doesn't provide all that much come late game. I've put a decent amount of time into him and I wanted to see what other people felt about him. My biggest and main issue with him is his ult. Its WAY too easy to get out of with beads or a simple dash/leap. If someone escapes your only option is to chase with your dash putting you in a dangerous situation. I feel that if he were able to place his ult, like his two brothers, and only received protections if he stood inside of it would make him much more of a danger late game while still making him balanced. Some of my friends have said that his ult should be a cripple but that would be, in my opinion, too much of a buff. He is no longer a support after all. I'm excited to see what other people say and think.

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    Being stationary is one of Hades few weakness and his brothers don't really heal like he does. He would have a great team fighting ult from a safe distance and could heal his team would make him overpowered.

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    Quote Originally Posted by zipps10 View Post
    As it stands now Hades is in the middle ground. In the right hands hes great but honestly as someone that loves the character he really doesn't provide all that much come late game. I've put a decent amount of time into him and I wanted to see what other people felt about him. My biggest and main issue with him is his ult. Its WAY too easy to get out of with beads or a simple dash/leap. If someone escapes your only option is to chase with your dash putting you in a dangerous situation. I feel that if he were able to place his ult, like his two brothers, and only received protections if he stood inside of it would make him much more of a danger late game while still making him balanced. Some of my friends have said that his ult should be a cripple but that would be, in my opinion, too much of a buff. He is no longer a support after all. I'm excited to see what other people say and think.
    Hades' ultimate works and needs no fix.

    Yes, being stationary is a weakness but that compensates for how good of a setup Hades' ultimate is, being a Hard CC ability that pulls people in, forcing out beads or escape, and also debuffing enemy god protections if they were previously blighted.

    There will be times where opponents will hold onto their ultimates, and when Hades hits his ultimate and stays stationary, a Hou Yi can drop his ultimate or a Kukulan can drop his ultimate or a Raijin. Got to play around that. Having more cooldown will help in that situation.

    Blink can be a good relic to use when chasing someone who has escaped Hades ultimate.

    Personally though, I always get Beads and Thorns on Hades.

    Hades cannot blow up people from range the way other mages like Zeus or Agni or Poseidon. But he helps a lot in teamfights. 3 forms of hard CC (Silence from his 2, Fear from his 2 if target is blighted, Pull from his ultimate). 1 form of soft CC (Slow from his 1 if target is blighted). Can heal allies within range with his 3 if target is blighted. Burns multiple beads and escape abilities if Hades lands his ultimate on multiple targets.

    The risk with Hades is when you go in and hard commit with 1, then 2 followed by 3 then ultimate or 1, then 2 followed by ultimate. Most opponents will eventually wait for Hades to commit with his 1, then Cc Hades before he can land his 2 to silence people. Just like how some people like to wait for impatient Odins who telegraph their Bird Bomb attacks, and then get destroyed.

    Hades is not a top meta pick but he will not become bottom tier because he will always be useful with his CC abilities and group heal.

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    I understand all ideas should be considered and shooting down people's ideas sucks but when it comes to balance, they should be taken serious seriously. There is nothing wrong with his ultimate..and it's that simple so any ideas to suggest somehow it needs changing is...yea.

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    A good Hades will make sure the enemy's escapes are down and THEN ult, or he will ult to force their escapes so his team gets a free kill. Unlike Zeus and Poseidon, Hades is tanky and has high sustain. He doesn't need buffs to his ult.
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    A ground targetter for Hades' ult would be so disgusting... Place it with no worries under their immobile gods every time.

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    i would say lower the duration and which would increase the tick rate , so it could be a .4 tick for and over all time of 3.2 so it would still do the same overall damage as it does now
    so even if you do beads and dash your more likely to take a tick or more damage before you get out
    hades is kinda like ares atm wher you have to be very aware of who your ulting , with some games very challenging if the other team has alot of cc immunity in ther kit

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    All I really prefer about the ult is that it gets a change to how its Blighted effect works. Protection shred only on Blighted enemies sucks and is inconvenient to get the hang of since your 3 consumes blight. Maybe make the protection shred small but stack per each tick of damage and placed on 2s duration after the ult, and change the Blighted effect to something like healing Hades for 25% of damage dealt to him to increase his survivability.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Enigmatisty View Post
    All I really prefer about the ult is that it gets a change to how its Blighted effect works. Protection shred only on Blighted enemies sucks and is inconvenient to get the hang of since your 3 consumes blight. Maybe make the protection shred small but stack per each tick of damage and placed on 2s duration after the ult, and change the Blighted effect to something like healing Hades for 25% of damage dealt to him to increase his survivability.
    Or just rework the passive into something that actually feels like a passive. Right now, it amounts to "land AA-cancels every now and then" and that's it.
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    Quote Originally Posted by SirKeksalot View Post
    Or just rework the passive into something that actually feels like a passive. Right now, it amounts to "land AA-cancels every now and then" and that's it.
    The passive in general is fine, but it needs to be reworked from an empty debuff that is honestly just a buff.
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