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    Quote Originally Posted by Goobis View Post
    No.

    Polynomicon is supposed to be applied with an AA to reward you. If you want to use Polynomicon, hit your AA's like every other god has to, none of this aoe cone bullshit that procs E-Staff/Soul Reaver simultaneously. Sol wasn't allowed to keep her's, and Ao having his aoe proc it didn't make any sense either.

    Also without the Poly cheese, it'll be easier to balance Ao now that he no longer has the crutch from Wild Storm, the glaring issue of aoe Polynomicon is gone, so now they can adjust him without that annoyance constantly getting in the way of ideas.
    Do explain how it was so absurd for Ao to do the exact thing every other mage does, but having to do so from melee range. Stellar Burst is a long-range AoE with regular mage ability damage. Wild Storm is a short cone with piss-poor damage to start with. Ao Guang is nothing like Sol, and there is no issue whatsoever with giving him back the thing that made him what he was.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Goobis View Post
    No.

    Polynomicon is supposed to be applied with an AA to reward you. If you want to use Polynomicon, hit your AA's like every other god has to, none of this aoe cone bullshit that procs E-Staff/Soul Reaver simultaneously. Sol wasn't allowed to keep her's, and Ao having his aoe proc it didn't make any sense either.

    Also without the Poly cheese, it'll be easier to balance Ao now that he no longer has the crutch from Wild Storm, the glaring issue of aoe Polynomicon is gone, so now they can adjust him without that annoyance constantly getting in the way of ideas.
    Ao's was justified because his 3 had subpar scaling compared to Sol's, who had high scaling AND base damage on top of hers. But I do agree with the change.
    I'm pretty much trying to reclaim my lost ELO and sticking to a few gods rn. Mostly playing Cern and maybe Daji.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Enigmatisty View Post
    Ao's was justified because his 3 had subpar scaling compared to Sol's, who had high scaling AND base damage on top of hers. But I do agree with the change.
    Ao's wasn't justified. It was an aoe ability that proc'd it, not a basic attack. I don't care how low/high the damage Wild Storm is, aoe abilities shouldn't proc the item.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Goobis View Post
    Ao's wasn't justified. It was an aoe ability that proc'd it, not a basic attack. I don't care how low/high the damage Wild Storm is, aoe abilities shouldn't proc the item.
    So what you're saying is, "I don't care whether an ability has a small hitbox to it or whether its damage values are tailored to a specific item it's supposed to proc, if it does something unconventional, that's not OK."
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    Quote Originally Posted by SirKeksalot View Post
    So what you're saying is, "I don't care whether an ability has a small hitbox to it or whether its damage values are tailored to a specific item it's supposed to proc, if it does something unconventional, that's not OK."
    No I'm pretty sure he is saying aoe abilities shouldn't proc poly. Did you read it?

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    Quote Originally Posted by SirKeksalot View Post
    So what you're saying is, "I don't care whether an ability has a small hitbox to it or whether its damage values are tailored to a specific item it's supposed to proc, if it does something unconventional, that's not OK."
    Wild Storm proc'ing Polynomicon is leftover fodder from when Hirez wanted him to be an AA-God. Once Kuang started building full-burst and rarely ever using his unique hit chain or AA'ing in general for kills, there was no point or need for Wild Storm to be able to proc Auto-Attack items, it just added further frustration to a god already possessing a stealth blink and an execute.

    Being over-reliant on an item (that isn't Boots/Penetration) to be useful is bad design and leads to balancing problems. Look at what happened to Merc when he lost Golden Bow, Freya losing Fatalis, and Ratatoskr's original passive.
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    Both pre and post changes’ builds pretty much required Poly, so I don’t see what the big deal is here. I perform equally as well with him as I did before.

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    Am I the only one who feels Au Kuang is poorly labeled as a mage? His Kit and play style feel more like an Assassin and not a mage to me. Even his basic attack is a melee ability anyone else feel like they are playing an Assassin and not a mage?

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    Quote Originally Posted by kingasce13 View Post
    Am I the only one who feels Au Kuang is poorly labeled as a mage? His Kit and play style feel more like an Assassin and not a mage to me. Even his basic attack is a melee ability anyone else feel like they are playing an Assassin and not a mage?
    Who cares? Does it matter? No. So why even ask?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Zellun View Post
    Who cares? Does it matter? No. So why even ask?
    Feel weird buying magic Items for someone who I keep confusing for an Assassin I keep trying to find Deathbringer for a few seconds before I remember he is a mage.

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