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    Quote Originally Posted by Lyralis View Post
    Nox has 2 CCs on her 1, hard CC on her 2, and a potent debuff on her ult.

    She also has higher damage than Scylla on her 1 and 2.
    All of that sounds good on paper, but in practice Scylla will hit 10 instant detonation Crushes while poor Nox is getting countered by relics/zig-zagging (try zig-zagging vs Crush) or her root gets bodyblocked/cleansed by hel/geb/someone-else or she is fucked up in some other way. Or she simply misses root and does nothing (impossible to miss Crush as Scylla).

    Not comparable at all.

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    Because when there is a new release, there is two possible responses "OP as fuuuuckk nerf it to hellll"or "worthless as shiiiit cannot swat a baby flyyy". Imagine the response when Hel would be released now instead of having been in the game for years.... I know who would scream bloody murder.

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    Quote Originally Posted by S1itz View Post
    All of that sounds good on paper, but in practice Scylla will hit 10 instant detonation Crushes while poor Nox is getting countered by relics/zig-zagging (try zig-zagging vs Crush) or her root gets bodyblocked/cleansed by hel/geb/someone-else or she is fucked up in some other way. Or she simply misses root and does nothing (impossible to miss Crush as Scylla).

    Not comparable at all.
    Crush does have a travel time.

    Nox 2 is instant silence.

    So in the end its like, 1s for Scylla to do damage and 2s for Nox.

    Not as big a difference as you claim. It is easier though.

    Somehow if I hit a flicker-root IE flick my mouse and hit it, I tend to miss my Crush even tho the enemy is rooted.

    I'm very bad I know.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Lyralis View Post
    So in the end its like, 1s for Scylla to do damage and 2s for Nox.
    1s to DO actual damage vs 2s window to use a SKILLSHOT (and not miss it) to do the damage.

    If you don't see it you must be retarded or never played Nox.

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    Quote Originally Posted by S1itz View Post
    1s to DO actual damage vs 2s window to use a SKILLSHOT (and not miss it) to do the damage.

    If you don't see it you must be retarded or never played Nox.
    You forget that Scylla's doesn't silence you and also has a warning indicator and you can actually leap/dash out of it unlike Nox's but okay.


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    Quote Originally Posted by SantasLiLHelper View Post
    Because when there is a new release, there is two possible responses "OP as fuuuuckk nerf it to hellll"or "worthless as shiiiit cannot swat a baby flyyy". Imagine the response when Hel would be released now instead of having been in the game for years.... I know who would scream bloody murder.
    Wrong! Everyone was fine with Hachiman's release because he was balanced well.
    Why can't the likes of Artio and DIscordia be as not bloated as Hachiman?

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    My point is that a lot of the reactions to new gods are strongly exaggerated. There may be some truth to some of the outcries, but a lot of it is theatrical drama queen behaviour. Some of the new gods indeed are generic/bland enough that they cause little response, like Hachiman. He is a good hunter, but also very much dime a dozen, he brings little to nothing that is new or interesting. He plays like any other hunter, both for the player and his opposition there are no surprises.

    Others, like Artio, cause an upheaval that is not at all in proportion to their actual strengths. This kind of reaction usually occurs if the god in question brings new things into the game. Nerfing may be required, it usually is, but that does not take away from the fact that certain members in the community blow things way out of proportion ("x has no weakness" and similar mindless ranting). I would not mind if HiRez would simply shrug it off, but sometimes they actually listen to the crybabies. Look at what happened to poor Khepri, he got neutered ten times over.

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    Because hatchi is. bloated. It's just that for some reason he comes with a built in self mez that puts his player to sleep half way through the game so people don't bother playing him. You know you botched a character when he is so strong but the boredom overides and desire to play him.

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    Quote Originally Posted by SantasLiLHelper View Post
    Look at what happened to poor Khepri, he got neutered ten times over.
    Yeah,they like to sit on here and cry about the guardians people play, then turn around and cry about the lack of guardians in each of their games.

    Sorry. They have to be good for people to play them, thats how it works. If the guardians suck then I won't play them, and im usually last pick in casuals and that last pick is usually a guardian - that means you're getting KKK for support if my picks for guardian are too weak.

    the guardian must be able to deal damage and kill throughout most of the game if I am to play it. No fucking exceptions. I am not alone in this or else "guardian" wouldn't fall to me most of the time.

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    It is funny/interesting that strong guardians have sollicited the most fuming hatred, in particular Khepri and Artio, to a lesser extent Xing Tian for the more recent releases.

    Edit: spelling "Xing"fixed.
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