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    Hachiman Nerf

    I think Hachiman's 2 deals too much damage in the early stages of the game and he is not intended to. Anyway you can't only nerf his damage because it is his main clearing tool, so what I thought is too decrease his base damage but give him a percentage damage bonus against minions and creeps. His 2 is very easy to land and as I say I don't think is fair he deals that damage so soon to gods. For the rest of his kit, I think is pretty balanced. Maybe the ult should be a little more difficult to hit but that's it for now.
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    I vote NO. He is already underwhelming. Nerfing his strength would make him even more underwhelming. He should be buffed in my opinion.

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    Quote Originally Posted by LiamX View Post
    I vote NO. He is already underwhelming. Nerfing his strength would make him even more underwhelming. He should be buffed in my opinion.
    He is underwhelming? Which games have you been in?
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    He is supposed to be late game. I'm destroying every game early game with his banner. Everyone is. Which games have you been in really?
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    Quote Originally Posted by NervousCrysis View Post
    He is supposed to be late game. I'm destroying every game early game with his banner.
    Welcome to Hunters.

    Where Late Game gods are bad in the early game. But not really.

    Where Ability gods fall off late game. But not really.

    As far as Hachiman goes, his 2 is barely better than Artemis' 3.

    A comparison:

    Hachi: 85/140/195/250/305 +45%

    Arte: 80/130/180/230/280 +40%

    A nerf to Hachi's 2 would put it into the "Garbage Tier" that Arte's 3 is known for. Bear in mind that Arte's 3 also comes with a 25% slow and a lower CD to boot.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Relanah View Post
    Welcome to Hunters.

    Where Late Game gods are bad in the early game. But not really.

    Where Ability gods fall off late game. But not really.

    As far as Hachiman goes, his 2 is barely better than Artemis' 3.

    A comparison:

    Hachi: 85/140/195/250/305 +45%

    Arte: 80/130/180/230/280 +40%

    A nerf to Hachi's 2 would put it into the "Garbage Tier" that Arte's 3 is known for. Bear in mind that Arte's 3 also comes with a 25% slow and a lower CD to boot.
    You aren't really paying attention. The problem with Artemis is her clearing. Hachiman wouldn't have that problem because I'm suggesting to take it away from base damage so he doesn't hurt gods that much but replace it with the percentage damage to minions and creeps. His clearing remains untouched. It's his damage to gods what gets nerfed, what I see really fair since he is destroying with it too soon and he is not supposed to by own Hirez words. All late game hunters are in a good spot except for those who can't clear a wave early on, which is the case for Xba and Art. I really feel like people don't really read comments before answering to them.
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    If not, its cooldown is what needs to be nerfed instead. It's an easy-to-land ability that is available too often and provides damage and an area stim.
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    Uh, no. His 2 is SUPPOSED to be at its strongest early game and intentionally fall off until late where his long-range AAs shine the most.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Enigmatisty View Post
    Uh, no. His 2 is SUPPOSED to be at its strongest early game and intentionally fall off until late where his long-range AAs shine the most.
    This. If anything, I think Hachiman needs a buff. Maybe tweak his 1 in a way that it can damage towers.

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    Quote Originally Posted by LiamX View Post
    This. If anything, I think Hachiman needs a buff. Maybe tweak his 1 in a way that it can damage towers.
    *vietnam flashbacks of hachi taking tower from far range*
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