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    Relic Dagger needs something more

    So before it got nerfed nobody bought it. Now even less buy it haha.

    I wouldn't even increase the price but it needs a small incentive to become a considered pickup.

    Any suggestions?

    30 magic or 15 physical power perhaps? (As in both and the stat that applies to your god kicks in).

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    Relic Dagger doesnt need anything. It is that its underrated as hell for most players (and tbh, 30s Relic doesnt look too impactful for the average player instead of say 30% slow from FB)
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    Quote Originally Posted by Slaycrol View Post
    Relic Dagger doesnt need anything. It is that its underrated as hell for most players (and tbh, 30s Relic doesnt look too impactful for the average player instead of say 30% slow from FB)
    Agree, its perfect item for support, CDR, MS and finally more HP thanks to removed AS which was useless for Guardians, his passive is good and you buy it only for 1850g.
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    I buy it instead of boots for hun batz in arena. That is about it.
    Rocking the boat

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    Relic Dagger is okay as is.

    Change to flat reduction is quite nice.

    Since relics are 100-160s CD, with most being 120.

    20% was 20-32s, with the majority receiving 24s.

    While the new flat 30 is beneficial for everything sans Beads/Aegis (Before upgrading that is)

    As far as the item goes, it's okay. Nothing stand out, but that's okay. It at least doesn't have any awkward stats that feel out of place. Health/CDR/MS is a very globally useful set of stats. Unlike things such as Attack Speed which is useless outside ADC's for the most part...

    Honestly, the only issue with Relic Dagger, is having the time to build it.

    Since, due to how itemization works, Hunters, Mages and Assassins build full glass cannon so have no room for it. While Guardians and Warriors tend to be building full or nearly full defence.

    Which leaves RD out in the cold because it doesn't properly fit into either of those categories...

    That said, I might see if I can flirt with the idea of replacing boots with Relic Dagger if planning on going another item with MS on it (E.g. Asclepious, Masamune, SCS, the mage rings etc) since it would be able to get the 20% MS in that case (Which is comparable to T3 boots 18% MS). Though, this might require a Swift Wing pick up to get 15% MS until that second speed item (That's usually 4th-5th item) comes online...
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    The only thing stopping me from trying to catch people with a 5 Man No Escape or 4 Man Ymir Freeze is cause of cooldown on the relic Blink..
    The Buff was all it needed for me to pick the item instead of some more tankiness...
    The item is fine cause it's pretty key for Gods who need to utilize relics to actually have a more substantial and surprise impact
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    For me Relic Dagger is only viable on gd which need the actives for the main combo. Best example would be Ares Blink+Ult.
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    tbh the only time you should really build relic dagger is lategame as your sixth item if you're a support or whatever dependent on blink.
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    It was my favorite when it was first released. The relic cooldown is just a cheap gimmick. It is disturbing how unimaginative players are. I am pretty sure on release it had 20% attack speed. An item that gives cooldown, attack speed, and movement speed made it one of the best in the game. I would never buy it now. Almost anything is better.

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    That's my whole point right there well said.

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