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    Hel Has No Ultimate But Nowhere Near as Broken as Artio

    So, I just unlocked Hel a couple of days ago and when I saw someone saying Artio's skills are only bloated because she has no ultimate, I remember Hel (who is very fun to play by the way) and Hel also has no ultimate. Yet, she's not broken nor nearly as tanky as the broken goddess of noobs.

    You say Noobtio is a magical warrior? No warrior has that amount of CC while, can heal, being tanky, deal good damage, excellent escape and easy to use all at once.

    I am actually glad she's getting nerfed in the next patch but the nerf is not enough. She needs to be nerfed more. Reducing her dash is a big leap and probably remove 1 or 2 CCs. Then reduce her damage (or her defense).
    Last edited by LiamX; 08-14-2017 at 02:19 AM.

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    Herc and tyr say hi to that no CC heal and damage

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    Quote Originally Posted by LittlePebble02 View Post
    Herc and tyr say hi to that no CC heal and damage
    Your logic: Tyr and Herc has 2 CC. Artio has 5. Yup that's the same number.
    Also, neither of them can heal their allies nor have long escape.
    And both of them are hard to use whereas Artio is very easy which is why she's the goddess of noobs.
    Last edited by LiamX; 08-14-2017 at 02:35 AM.

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    Herc and tyr are hard to use. Yep thats enough stupidity for today gonna go pop a bottle of cricklbrick and cry into it knowing i share bio mass with that.

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    Quote Originally Posted by LittlePebble02 View Post
    Herc and tyr are hard to use. Yep thats enough stupidity for today gonna go pop a bottle of cricklbrick and cry into it knowing i share bio mass with that.
    Looks to me you don't know Smite very well. There's a reason why people put them on the high skill cap list.
    But anyway, none of them are nearly as easy to use as Artio no matter how different your playstyle is.

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    Its just numbers bro.
    Herc has a push, pull, heal/protbuff

    It is true his abilities are on a relatively short cooldown but there is a great time between his attacks, there is plenty of time to tend him in between.

    Tyr on the other hand.. uh.
    I always hated tyr, he is immortal, without a joke.

    And then there is artio.

    Stable damage per every ability, heal, slow, root, stun, protections, slow, and she never stops.

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    It's funny how LittlePebble only contradicts one part of Liam's argument. I hate Artio and she really is broken.

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    I really hate Artio. They need to nerfed so much more. It's ridiculous fighting her at this point. We could just 5v1 her and she'd still come out on top.
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    Well um, I'm gonna confess here-

    I can't play Artio to save my life.


    That said, she is OP but since Hirez knows (or should since half the first page of forum and reddit is about Artio) they'll fix her in a patch or three.

    We have so many NerfArtio! threads that we really don't need more lol.

    About the no ult comment which I think was me; it's a little different because most guardians have game-changing initiating or peeling ults. Guard ults are arguably more important than mage ults, with some exceptions.

    So yes I feel a guardian switcher needs more compensation for no ult than a mage. Not to Hirez's extent tho, don't get me wrong.

    Dash shouldn't slow, cripple should be 3/3/3/4/4 sec, stun should have small delay, damage overall nerf by 10-15%, healing on the 1 is fine, maybe nerf the 3 heal and maybe only make it root if they're already crippled.

    Heal on 1 is fine because it's true in-combat healing, can't be used out of combat, and thus Antiheal counters it extremely well while also making it rewarding to use at the right time.

    Artio's 1 heal is probably the best design/balance heal in the game atm, it's only the rest of her kit that makes it op when put together.
    What do I put here now?

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    Quote Originally Posted by hudapak View Post
    I really hate Artio. They need to nerfed so much more. It's ridiculous fighting her at this point. We could just 5v1 her and she'd still come out on top.
    I agree. At least with the other person who can go 1 vs 5, Hercules, you build an anti heal and he's done. If you build anti heal with Artio, you're only shutting down one part of her. She can still 1 vs 5 with her other overpowered stupidity.

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