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    Quote Originally Posted by ApolloTheBard01 View Post
    Hercules is actually easy to kill. Just have at least one guardian build two anti-healing items and you're good. Trashtio on the other hand...
    I'd rather have her dash, damage and defense nerfed. She can keep all her CCs but make her more of a support type character.
    Herc and easy to kill on the same sentence.. it's like saying Susano is balanced.

    Anyways, Artio is harder to solokill than Herc though. If you actually get her low enough.. She runs away.

    But HERCULES? Hahaha. Yup tried 4 man Ganking in Clash. Ended up being Tower pushed and lost our Squishy mage to a Earth Breaker, Driving Strike, Excavate.

    And he leaves away. Not dead. I had Pestilence as Fafnir for the record, and our Jungler Thor had Brawlers Beat Stick

    Back on Artio.

    She has a 8 second Cripple, that should be her ult. If it deals damage.
    Free Protection Shred. Why not? (This is Sarcastic)
    She has a long stun, that is instant. And is a LONG Duration one. Could be her ult if it deals damage.
    She has a Dash... Which in a guardian with THAT much CC? You give a CC god mobility?

    So, nerf the CC, and she would make a great balanced PASSIVE Guardian.

    Or Aggressive.. not really sure

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    Minor correction her cripple is 4-6 secs "only"

    Then again Ares is 10 sec but he has to aim lol.
    What do I put here now?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Caitniss View Post
    I disagree with this, though. She's meant to be support. "Ton of damage" is quite an exaggeration. She's Kumba with a heal. People who play Artio and get a lot of kills are stealing them. Either that, or the opposite team is incredibly stupid and uncoordinated.
    She actually has a lot more damage than Kumbha; and Kumbha hits pretty hard as it stands. She's no more a support than Bacchus.

    Quote Originally Posted by Sissyum View Post
    Herc and easy to kill on the same sentence.. it's like saying Susano is balanced.

    Anyways, Artio is harder to solokill than Herc though. If you actually get her low enough.. She runs away.

    But HERCULES? Hahaha. Yup tried 4 man Ganking in Clash. Ended up being Tower pushed and lost our Squishy mage to a Earth Breaker, Driving Strike, Excavate.

    And he leaves away. Not dead. I had Pestilence as Fafnir for the record, and our Jungler Thor had Brawlers Beat Stick
    If you can't kill a Herc with 4 guys and anti-heals, then that's on you. He's effectively a guardian who's good early and falls off late as opposed to being poor early and scaling well into the late-game.
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    She is op yes, but the only person who went any remote penetration was the Ao Kuang. Your Hunter only had Crusher and your Assassin didn't even have a completed penetration item. Thor also never bought a second active and Nu Wa bought Meditation and Bracer with again, no penetration.

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    Its arena....

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    Quote Originally Posted by McKnightrider View Post
    Its arena....
    Well even in Conquest (Casuals), she receives complaints about being OP/broken.


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    Quote Originally Posted by SirKeksalot View Post
    If you can't kill a Herc with 4 guys and anti-heals, then that's on you. He's effectively a guardian who's good early and falls off late as opposed to being poor early and scaling well into the late-game.
    Well I already used my Coerce onto Thor, Missed My Stun cause my aim is as good as a guy with Parkinson's, and disarm.

    Anything else for me to do? Apart from landing my stun

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    Quote Originally Posted by Sissyum View Post
    Well I already used my Coerce onto Thor, Missed My Stun cause my aim is as good as a guy with Parkinson's, and disarm.

    Anything else for me to do? Apart from landing my stun
    I can't really recommend anything unless you have footage of the play. I need every little detail of what happened if I'm going to explain how a guy got away from a 4-man gank and somehow made a kill out of it at the same time.
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    Quote Originally Posted by SirKeksalot View Post
    She actually has a lot more damage than Kumbha; and Kumbha hits pretty hard as it stands. She's no more a support than Bacchus.



    If you can't kill a Herc with 4 guys and anti-heals, then that's on you. He's effectively a guardian who's good early and falls off late as opposed to being poor early and scaling well into the late-game.
    It's not necessarily on them.

    How would a zhong kui/amc/fafnir/osiris kill a hercules, just an example of a comp.

    Herc has lots of def, health, and damage build.

    Just because there is the possibility to kill herc by bombing hi mwith the right type of cc and damage one by one or at once, it doesnt mean its easy to pull that off, you are just like that guy from the other thread, saying its possible is the equivalent of it not being problematic and insanely difficult to do.

    Balance isnt how much damage people do, or how much defense or mobility, escapes, engages, lockdowns people god.
    Its about how easy it is to pull something off, how much effort goes into playing something well and how much results you get in teh end with equal input.

    Herc, can demolish 3 people or more at one and is still unkillable, he would be op even if he had no defense.

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    honestly i dont know why there are so many threads about her

    she is op and will get nerfed soon, the current nerfs arent good enough

    in the meantime bend over and enjoy her staff and claws.

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