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    Thread ain't about Sol, thread is about Artio.

    Besides, the stun got removed cause the ability already did like eight other things.
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    Not everything that is good just to be good should be nerfed

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    So does this mean Hercules heal is too good too, or is that fine because it can't heal allies? I don't see anything wrong with her really, and if you DO think Hercules is too OP or something then why are you trying to force the newest god down first.... She isn't OP, she isn't UP, she is just right. You can compare her to current OP gods, yet we still have them in game as is so why does she need to be shoved into the UP box? Shouldn't the UP gods just be lifted up? If you want to advocate for game wide nerfs that is a different story, but you don't go about that by hitting all the new gods. That just makes them irrelevant and keeps the same OP gods perpetually in meta. Perhaps you just don't like shifting metas? As new gods come in metas should shift... Older unused gods might even start joining in new metas as they work well or against newer gods, it is all pretty relative.

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    Quote Originally Posted by damienmc90 View Post
    So does this mean Hercules heal is too good too, or is that fine because it can't heal allies? I don't see anything wrong with her really, and if you DO think Hercules is too OP or something then why are you trying to force the newest god down first.... She isn't OP, she isn't UP, she is just right. You can compare her to current OP gods, yet we still have them in game as is so why does she need to be shoved into the UP box? Shouldn't the UP gods just be lifted up? If you want to advocate for game wide nerfs that is a different story, but you don't go about that by hitting all the new gods. That just makes them irrelevant and keeps the same OP gods perpetually in meta. Perhaps you just don't like shifting metas? As new gods come in metas should shift... Older unused gods might even start joining in new metas as they work well or against newer gods, it is all pretty relative.
    There's a little problem with her, that makes her case different than that of hercules's.
    She reaps most from disrupting entire teams, so much that there is no counterplay to her unless she is somehow separated from her team?

    Ofcourse this is how it seems so far, and thats my current opinion on her, perhaps she isnt as strong as it seems. In about a week or two we will know for better.

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    everything that is better than the worst equivalent thing should probably be nerfed. - Basic balancing 101

    She also suffers from bloated abilities/modes.

    Armour shred, protections buff, damage debuff, heal, stun, cripple, escape...

    How is this not worse than erlang sheng's bloat?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Goobis View Post
    Thread ain't about Sol, thread is about Artio.

    Besides, the stun got removed cause the ability already did like eight other things.
    Its Baka. Everything is about Sol.

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    I guess the real question is "What is her weakness?"

    She's got mobility, healing, protection shred, aoe cripple, protection buff, aoe stun, power debuff, slows, poke, bonus movement, mana sustain, and fairly solid damage.

    Where's her weakness?

    And before anyone says "just cc lock her", that's EVERY god's weakness.

    Quote Originally Posted by BakaCircle9 View Post
    and still heal ppl for 560 hp by hiting 3 gods with her 1... so yea, broken.
    Actually, if you've got 400 power with her, hitting 3 enemies with her druid 1 would heal for 720. 140 + 25% mp, so:

    One target: 240
    Two targets: 480
    Three targets: 720
    Four targets: 960
    Five targets: 1200
    Last edited by RatGirl; 08-03-2017 at 05:19 PM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by RatGirl View Post
    I guess the real question is "What is her weakness?"
    After playing her for a few matches, definitely the most annoying god I've had to fight against with her is Ganesha.

    Almost everything I tried to do was interrupted or denied between the channeled silence, cage, or stun/knockup.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Goobis View Post
    After playing her for a few matches, definitely the most annoying god I've had to fight against with her is Ganesha.

    Almost everything I tried to do was interrupted or denied between the channeled silence, cage, or stun/knockup.
    Again, that's kind of the same as "just cc lock her". Ganesha is annoying to EVERYONE that way.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Goobis View Post
    After playing her for a few matches, definitely the most annoying god I've had to fight against with her is Ganesha.

    Almost everything I tried to do was interrupted or denied between the channeled silence, cage, or stun/knockup.
    I think her weakness is 'teamplay.' A coordinated team (even just 2 members), can shut her down with the right items and strategy. Of course, that suggests that she is demanding more resources from a 5-man team than is fair for one God (and hence is OP), but I think that's a whining argument.

    By 'teamplay' what I mean is, if a group can map items and playstyle appropriately they can neutralize her.
    1) As a team, stay fairly spread out when you can, and only converge on a kill/ult sync, etc. This is hard to do without voice comms, but not impossible.
    2) A sin with high damage output against health, think Qins, Atk Spd Nem, and Winged Blade (helps but is not 100%) can be the tip of the spear, and the wood behind the point can be a Guard, or Warr with upgraded beads, Magis, or perhaps innate CC resist and Health.
    3) Separating her (peel, or split push) from the mass of her team is critical, and makes everything else easier for the strike force.
    4) Anti heal is worth it. Just like with Aphro or Hel, Herc, Terra etc.

    She's not impossible. But she does require a good deal of coordination.

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