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    The Full Lore Paradox

    Disclaimer: If Anyone Even TRIES To Tell Something About The Fact That A God Lacks Something Based On The Lore, Do Not Reply, and Leave This Thread

    E.G. You Think Artemis' Boar should not be named Tusky, and you complain.. DON'T, at least not here.

    Wait, just asking, Is Paradox the right word? If it isn't I'll change it onto problem, tell me that in the thread.

    Now, A While ago I made a thread about Visual Rework, and I also saw that Medusa Rework thing... someone, if I recall, ArsenalIV said that If we are going Full Lore, then Medusa would be nothing but a head in a shield.

    That got me thinking about the Paradoxes and Problems of going full lore.

    Now, we must note that despite the fact Smite is INSPIRED from Real Life Mythology, It's existence in real life is PURELY FICTION, and is SEPARATE from Real Life, despite the inspiration.

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    Btw Real Life Mythology doesn't mean real Canonically in our world, cause who the fuck knows.
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    Now, I can conclude that Smite is fiction cause:

    1. Gods from Mythology has never met before, par Egyptian gods that receive some influence from Romans, but that doesn't really count doesn't it?
    2. There are weapons and art (specifically in Skins) that show some definite evidence of Smite's existence in a real world timeline, either futuristic or far in the past.. instead of the time where Mythical stories take place
    3. Whatever caused these War Of The Gods seem to unexist in Mythology
    4. Creatures like Gold Fury and Fire Giant existing, cause chances are they come from other Pantheons of the map theme. Fire Giant seems to be Surtr from Norse, just a thought.

    Fact 2 is very important if you go full lore:

    Maybe, just Maybe, Artemis decided to have fun in the a century where pets MUST be named and gave The Calydonian Boar a proper name? Tusky sounds cute

    Maybe, since people nowadays know Cupid as a flying baby, that's the default image people know now, thus he changed his form, to be more recognizable

    Now, all I said above is maybe, but what are some defined things from all of this?

    First of all.. you can't go full lore in a game like Smite, and it is possible for things to be different canonically, it is fiction after all. A god can be inspired from the mythological version and shows up differently

    Also remember that the Timeline in Smite is different, thus Medusa and Ymir can be alive, and Scylla can show outside of the oceans.

    Now, I'm just saying to all of you hardheaded, annoying mythology fans, that you should respect whatever Hirez gives us, cause again, THE ENTIRE GAME IS FICTION, despite taking inspiration from Mythology.

    Also note that I know Mythology pretty well, and this shows that I have some knowledge when talking about lore.

    In conclusion:

    The game itself doesn't exist in full lore, so going full lore would mean that this game won't exist in the first place. If you might state something like "But that's the game, We are talking about characters" then shut the fuck up and think that the characters are actually a part of the game.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Sissyum View Post
    4. Creatures like Gold Fury and Fire Giant existing, cause chances are they come from other Pantheons of the map theme. Fire Giant seems to be Surtr from Norse, just a thought.
    in the end of ragnarok Surtr will explode himself and burn entire asgard to the ashes. if fire giant would be Surtr, conquest matches would last until first(and last) fire giant kill, after that he would explode and instakill all gods, towers, phoenixes and titans, also all minions and jungle monsters...
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    Quote Originally Posted by BakaCircle9 View Post
    in the end of ragnarok Surtr will explode himself and burn entire asgard to the ashes. if fire giant would be Surtr, conquest matches would last until first(and last) fire giant kill, after that he would explode and instakill all gods, towers, phoenixes and titans, also all minions and jungle monsters...
    Are you even serious...whole point of the thread is that Smite doesn't try to be exact lore accurate for good reasons. And you found a thing to nitpick on immediately.
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    The problem is the line between artistic liberty and faithfulness to the source material. Apollo not having a bow is fine because he's still very recognizably Apollo. Not only does he look the part, he acts the part, too. Hades, on the other hand, has no attributes that make him recognizable as Hades. He does not look like Hades and he's an outright bad guy, which directly contrasts Hades's character.

    To a degree, this is also one of the problems Bayformers faces. Ironhide has no visual or behavioral indicators that give him away as being adapted from previous incarnations of the character; in fact, he's almost devoid of personality entirely. Is it really accurate to say he's still Ironhide, then? By contrast, Optimus--at least in the first film; he breaks character a lot as the series goes on--both looks and acts like the original Optimus, and is therefore one of the few good translations of a classic Transformers character in the franchise (again, at least in the first film).

    It's really a matter of whether or not the changes are too much. Janus can be a robot as long as he's still recognizably Janus. Someone who died can be brought back to life if it's explained. But if you strip a character of what makes them who they are, then you're doing a poor job of adapting them into new media.
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    Well this is a game

    And it doesnt advertise it as being 100% Lore accurate (COUGH COUGH COD WW2)

    It just advertises as the battlegrounds of the gods (And goddesses for those SJWs): A game where you can play as your favorite deities from different mythologies/religions.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Charmander787 View Post
    Well this is a game

    And it doesnt advertise it as being 100% Lore accurate (COUGH COUGH COD WW2)

    It just advertises as the battlegrounds of the gods (And goddesses for those SJWs): A game where you can play as your favorite deities from different mythologies/religions.
    Exactly

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    But the characters still have to embody who they are. And Hades doesn't do that.

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    Quote Originally Posted by LittlePebble02 View Post
    But the characters still have to embody who they are. And Hades doesn't do that.
    Maybe Hirez learned about Hades via the Hercules disney movie.

    And yes, Hades is practically a man with anger issues

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    Smite doesn't boast that its a 100% lore accurate, this is true. The game is loosely adapted from mythologies and should be viewed as a fictional adaptation, rather than a history lesson in the old relegions.
    That being said, there is a vast difference between creative freedom and completely ignoring the source material. It isn't just Hades, Smite has several gods that doesn't bear any resemblance to their mythology counterparts.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Armaroz View Post
    Smite doesn't boast that its a 100% lore accurate, this is true. The game is loosely adapted from mythologies and should be viewed as a fictional adaptation, rather than a history lesson in the old relegions.
    That being said, there is a vast difference between creative freedom and completely ignoring the source material. It isn't just Hades, Smite has several gods that doesn't bear any resemblance to their mythology counterparts.
    Yeah I agree with that, but any examples par Hades?

    If you say bowless Apollo, don't post it here

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