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    The Morrigan's passive should proc either demonic grip or spear of the magus

    I know the last thing you wanna do is do another patch for The Morrigan in case she develops more bugs but bare with me here:

    So I was testing The Morrigan's 3rd basic attack DoT from her passive with a friend and we can conclude that it doesn't proc spear of the magus or demonic grip. So is it intended? If her passive damage isn't ability damage, and it ain't basic attack damage, what the hell is it then?

    Since her passive damage isn't auto attack or ability based, it limits her penetration options and you can't synergise any items off the passive other than attack speed.
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    It seems like her 3 attack works like an item proc. It kinda works like polynomicon but with the enemys HP instead of your power....and its a DoT.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Ichimarou View Post
    It seems like her 3 attack works like an item proc. It kinda works like polynomicon but with the enemys HP instead of your power....and its a DoT.
    They tried being too unique again. Just make it a simple DoT like Agni's passive if need be. And hell, it's not even a passive, it's just a basic attack progression.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Enigmatisty View Post
    They tried being too unique again. Just make it a simple DoT like Agni's passive if need be. And hell, it's not even a passive, it's just a basic attack progression.
    Basically this. They should reduce the percentage of the damage dealt to gods health with the progression and give her a new passive. Something that can enforce the shape - shifter or mage/assasin part of her. Or just make her 1 and 2 deal DOT damage like Agni's passive when you use her 1 or 2. The effect is doubled if she uses both. The cooldown for that could be 7 seconds.

    Or something more unique, i have no idea but i want to hear all of your ideas, guys.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Drakonasx View Post

    Or something more unique, i have no idea but i want to hear all of your ideas, guys.
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    Quote Originally Posted by DarkFuma View Post
    Her passive changes into the passive of the God she last turned into.
    How about we not make her a broken mess again? Speaking of broken, the ult is also messed up; I need to check again but I could never seem to heal if I transformed into a healer.
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    Her "passive" should just be her basic attack chain progression.

    Ideas for new passive:

    1) Boon of Doom: The Morrigan feeds off of knowing the fate of others. Whenever an enemy god has a Dark Omen timer ticking on them, The Morrigan gains movement speed bonus equal to 10% per Omen active and for 2 seconds afterwards. (Passive graphic: The profile of a raven with five extended feathers from a wing that glow with each stack from passive)

    2) Fate of War: The Morrigan thrives in foretelling the death of others and gains power as she does so. Whenever an enemy god is killed by Dark Omen that is triggered by an ally god, The Morrigan gains 1 stack of this passive. At 3 stacks, if The Morrigan drops to zero hit points, she turns into a raven and is able to leap away and recovers 10% of her hit points. (passive graphic: same as above, but only 3 feathers that fan out)

    3) Of Three, One: The Morrigan foretells the conflict of war and death and delights in seeing her portends come true. Whenever an enemy god has a Dark Omen applied to them, but it is never triggered and the duration expires, a raven is placed at that enemy god's feet that only she can see. When three ravens are on the battlefield,those ravens fly to The Morrigan and are absorbed. The next time The Morrigan uses Deadly Aspects, the ability does not require a charge-up and can be instantly cast. The Morrigan may also move within 5 units of these ravens which feed her power by flying to her. If she absorbs a raven, The cooldown for The Morrigan's Changeling ability is reduced by 5 seconds. Only three ravens can exist on a battlefield at any given time. (Passive graphic: An opaque raven broken into 3 parts [the head/body, left wing, right wing]. When a raven is on the battlefield, a part becomes less opaque.)

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ichimarou View Post
    It seems like her 3 attack works like an item proc. It kinda works like polynomicon but with the enemys HP instead of your power....and its a DoT.
    Her passive procs polynomicon but it doesn't proc demonic grip when the DoT is being considered a basic attack for polynomicon, but it isn't for demonic grip.

    Also after posting this on [reddit](https://www.reddit.com/r/Smite/comme...pply_spear_of/), people have mentioned that agni passive and ares' flames don't proc spear of the magus either.

    I think both of these should be able to proc spear of the magus since its ability damage. Even F. thinks spear of the magus procs on agni passive and I think a lot of other players would assume so too.

    This is not a 1 particular god issue.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Bigfsi View Post
    Her passive procs polynomicon but it doesn't proc demonic grip when the DoT is being considered a basic attack for polynomicon, but it isn't for demonic grip.

    Also after posting this on [reddit](https://www.reddit.com/r/Smite/comme...pply_spear_of/), people have mentioned that agni passive and ares' flames don't proc spear of the magus either.

    I think both of these should be able to proc spear of the magus since its ability damage. Even F. thinks spear of the magus procs on agni passive and I think a lot of other players would assume so too.

    This is not a 1 particular god issue.
    Spear of the Magus doesn't proc on her passive (despite it being an ability, yes it is according to the damage recap and t screen) cause its %damage based on health, like Qin's. Same thing with Ares's flames, its % damage, not flat damage. Though it should be proc'ing on Agni's passive, and I could have sworn it did for me in the last match I played with him a few weeks ago.

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    Quote Originally Posted by LinkNightblade View Post
    Spear of the Magus doesn't proc on her passive (despite it being an ability, yes it is according to the damage recap and t screen) cause its %damage based on health, like Qin's. Same thing with Ares's flames, its % damage, not flat damage. Though it should be proc'ing on Agni's passive, and I could have sworn it did for me in the last match I played with him a few weeks ago.
    By proccing poly, I mean, if you hit the enemy with ur passive and THEN hit them with the ability, the DoT will consume the poly and deal the poly damage, making the DoT count as a basic, since poly's description is that ur next basic attack applies the poly damage.

    So in regards to polynomicon, morrigans passive is being considered a basic attack but with demonic grip it isn't.
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