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    mercury:
    with frostbound hammer, quinsais and shit ton of defensive items... a lot of CC and slow on range via made you look + frostbound proc, damage via stim ability + quinsais passive....

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    Fenrir is by far the best assassin you could have for support. I used to play duo lane with me as Kukulkan adc with a friend as Fenrir support.

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    hmm... if you dont want play traditional support, please dont play this role.
    I see how you guys say awilix, ne zha, fenrir, isis, nox, chaac are good or awesome supp. No, they arent. Yes, you can win your lane but thats all you can do. Mid to late game you dont have enough cc to save your teammates or not enough healt/deff to bodyblock/frontline.
    without ults:
    fenrir: 1cc which you have to stack
    ne zha: 1single target cc
    nox: silent and single target root
    chaac: slow (he is decent solo/frontliner, but he fall down as a supp).

    If you have too much magical gods in your team and you should pick some physical god for supp role:
    amaterasu, erlang shen, guan yu, hercules, maybe odin (in some team composition)

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    Quote Originally Posted by Reynewam View Post
    hmm... if you dont want play traditional support, please dont play this role.
    I see how you guys say awilix, ne zha, fenrir, isis, nox, chaac are good or awesome supp. No, they arent. Yes, you can win your lane but thats all you can do. Mid to late game you dont have enough cc to save your teammates or not enough healt/deff to bodyblock/frontline.
    without ults:
    fenrir: 1cc which you have to stack
    ne zha: 1single target cc
    nox: silent and single target root
    chaac: slow (he is decent solo/frontliner, but he fall down as a supp).

    If you have too much magical gods in your team and you should pick some physical god for supp role:
    amaterasu, erlang shen, guan yu, hercules, maybe odin (in some team composition)

    Well the problem in SMite is, people think Support=Tank
    and people hate to paly tank in general.

    In other games like LoL support does not have to be a tank!
    Of course most teams need a tank/Frontliner but this does not have to be the support!

    In smite these 2 things are just mixed together, mostly because you can shove 2 unliked roles (tank and support) onto the same person.

    A jungler or a solo laner could also be the tank, if they wanted to, but they most likely do not want.

    also "if you dont want play traditional support, please dont play this role." well the problem is, people are often "forced" to play support.

    And from my point of view, if you tell someone to play support (because its the only role left), you just have to let that person play support the way he or she wants to. If you want to have a guardian support, play it yourself.

    If you want to have a tank in the team, play a character with cc and build him tanky, but do not force others to play it.

    btw. Ne zha also has a AOE slow (and protection debuff)
    Nox with a silent and single target debuff (and a great damage reduction ultimate) has more CC than most guardians.

    If a character like Nox is not a good support, than Hi-Rez just screwed up with their balancing and should add some items to make non tank support possible.

    Having a 10 seconds cd 2 second root which goes through minions + a (13 seconds cooldown) 2 second AOE Silence/Zoning a 40% less damage AOE ultimate with good base damage (which all three are not reduced by diminishing returns or anty CC items) and even a great escpae/engage together with pretty high early game burst (210 base damage on level 2 (while CCing) + possibly 350 base damage on level 3 when played perfectly) would make her a great support in each other moba.
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    hmm... if you dont want play traditional support, please dont play this role.
    I see how you guys say awilix, ne zha, fenrir, isis, nox, chaac are good or awesome supp. No, they arent. Yes, you can win your lane but thats all you can do. Mid to late game you dont have enough cc to save your teammates or not enough healt/deff to bodyblock/frontline.
    without ults:
    fenrir: 1cc which you have to stack
    ne zha: 1single target cc
    nox: silent and single target root
    chaac: slow (he is decent solo/frontliner, but he fall down as a supp).

    If you have too much magical gods in your team and you should pick some physical god for supp role:
    amaterasu, erlang shen, guan yu, hercules, maybe odin (in some team composition)
    Win early game = win game

    Warriors have multi CC's as well and can box other gods much more effective than guardians.
    Gods like Geb or Khepri are cannon meat which do nothing but some CC and shields/revive. Simply when Chaac or Herc throw their shit into enemies they do much more damage than these two.

    You can say that Geb or Khepri are OP for saving your allies but I play in solo que so I prefer do something rather than rely on my carries.

    Basically every god with decent CC's can be good support.
    This feeling when your team is far behind and you have no prospects for late game but for some reason players still doesnt want surrender - MOBA Cancer.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Reynewam View Post
    hmm... if you dont want play traditional support, please dont play this role.
    Oh, believe me, I DO NOT WANT TO PLAY THIS ROLE.

    However, allies always have other ideas. Those ideas often include 2-3 Hunters and Assassins, instantly locked.

    Then its just trying to make do with the role you're stuck with... Which if you hate playing the standard Guardian/Warrior support leaves little to keep you engaged... ESPECIALLY if you've been stuck playing nothing but support for months because insta-lockers every single time...

    So, trying unconventional supports is all you have left to not want to just uninstall the game out of boredom...

    Which, aren't so bad as it happens. Really, you just need someone with a pulse and Sov+Heart to play support. Sure, the more inherent CC you have, the easier it is to perform (Since you'll be able to peel better and set up kills without needing a bunch of damage items).

    However, a significant part of supporting is just being there to well... Support who's in need. An extra body to clear waves/poke damage is significant for protecting someone.

    Heck, that's actually fairly close to how Junglers play when they're not farming/ganking. They go to a lane and put pressure out. So it's no surprise that Assassins can make functional supports. You'll just go with a weaker frontline (Basically the solo laner will be the main tank... Which typically they are the tankiest character in a team even when using a Guardian support because of levels of farm)
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