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    He's a high skill high reward hypercarry. Most people don't like him, but if played well, he shreds through squishies and tanks alike.

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    Quote Originally Posted by MagicFighter View Post
    Bakasura is baaaaaaaaaaaad.

    If he is just starting, he will be fine. Outside of that, Bakasura sucks in everything except Duel.
    Except he doesn't because he comes online long before the rest of the AA-based assassins. His true damage enables him to 100-0 absolutely anything that moves, which is rather appropriate for his character.

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    Quote Originally Posted by MagicFighter View Post
    Baka's main nitch is snowballing early, invading your buffs, and killing you at Lv. 5. Except when pretty much everything right now invades, most solo laners are either Warriors with sustain and CC Immunity or Guardians with Vanguard, they will just camp and farm, and also add as a bonus that his only form of CC is a slow every 90s that is leveled last, his nitch is lost. Disarms also render half his kit unusable.

    CDR is also pointless because Bakasura is 95% AA-Based.
    What about the cripple, did they remove that?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Yivanna View Post
    What about the cripple, did they remove that?
    Nope, but wouldn't say it's necessarily great or anything compared to Nemesis' ult.
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    Quote Originally Posted by SirKeksalot View Post
    Except he doesn't because he comes online long before the rest of the AA-based assassins. His true damage enables him to 100-0 absolutely anything that moves, which is rather appropriate for his character.
    Dosen't matter, no one in their right mind want baka in team, garbage god is garbage nuf said

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    Once he hits level 5, he can be a nightmare to most gods. Plus once he get's fatalis, he's a true monster. He does fall off a bit at late game once other gods start getting their power, but I highly recommend him.

    Max out his 3 first, the true damage can shred so much.

    Build should consist of attack speed, pen and only probably one crit item.

    Warrior Tabi/Fatalis, Fatalis/Warrior Tabi, Qins Sais, Wind Demon, Executioner. I missed one item there because the very last item is up to you, and the position you're in. If you're struggling and tend to take a bit more damage than you like, you can fill it in with a defensive item (ie BoV, Mantle) or you may want a lifesteal item of sorts (ie Asi, Bloodforge). As I said, up to you.

    That's really all the advice I can give about him. Hope you find luck with him!

    Quote Originally Posted by Derled View Post
    Dosen't matter, no one in their right mind want baka in team, garbage god is garbage nuf said
    Perhaps put in a valid argument about why he is garbage? Even though he isn't at all, I'd like to hear your perspective on him.

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    Lack of CC, lack of reliable AoE damage, no burst since everything is sustained damage, and an ability that isn't even usable in half the fights in later stages of the game. Squishy by default and basically he's Kali if Kali was horrible and didn't have a level 5 power spike.
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    Quote Originally Posted by SeventhArchon View Post
    Lack of CC
    For being online from really early on, strong CC of any kind would be OP.

    lack of reliable AoE damage
    His leap is AoE and his ult gives him cone AA's.

    no burst since everything is sustained damage
    You mean like every other AA-based assassin?

    Squishy by default
    With a warrior's base stats?

    and basically he's Kali if Kali was horrible and didn't have a level 5 power spike.
    Except A. he gets a lot of utility from his ult, just like her, and B. Kali's ult doesn't magically end her shitty early-game.

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    Quote Originally Posted by SirKeksalot View Post
    For being online from really early on, strong CC of any kind would be OP.



    His leap is AoE and his ult gives him cone AA's.



    You mean like every other AA-based assassin?



    With a warrior's base stats?



    Except A. he gets a lot of utility from his ult, just like her, and B. Kali's ult doesn't magically end her shitty early-game.
    In order:
    Thanatos? Thor?
    That AoE is smaller than the amount of things that work on the new Mario Kart map.
    Mercury?
    Compare Bakasura to a typical warrior: 2015/69/48 vs Erlang Shen's 2115/77/48, but even then, squishy by default is more about the protections and defenses gained from the kit, which are hard for Bakasura to maintain in a fight in most Conquest scenarios.
    A. Our definition of a lot varies. A lot.
    B. Her decent early game ends the myth.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Relanah View Post
    Bakasura is one of the 4 main "Hypercarry" assassins.

    He's also, by far, the WORST of the 4 main "Hypercarry" assassins.

    If your friend likes the playstyle of Hypercarry, I suggest he see if one of the other, better, gods would also suit him whilst not having the same drawbacks that Bakasura has.

    For reference, the 4 main ones are:

    Kali
    Nemesis
    Arachne
    Bakasura

    They all excel in getting really strong and basically murdering anyone they feel like. With the downside of being slower than most Assassins to come online (Generally need Boots + Qin's + Fatalis for most of them to start to do something. Nemesis and Arachne can forgo Fatalis if you wish as they have slows in their kit)

    So yeah. Bakasura is not in a good place at the moment. Is he unplayably bad? No. Heck, even the worst god in the entire game, Loki, can be used effectively.

    However, your friend may find it helpful to be playing a stronger god when learning the game before trying to main a weaker one.
    How you just gonna name arachne as a hyper carry but leave out Mercury? I wouldn't call arachne a hyper carry either she just has a very effective start which lets her snowball

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