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    Polynesian Pantheon with God Concepts

    "The Polynesians, though scattered among the far-flung islands of the Pacific, carried with them their gods and goddesses, each influencing the way the chiefs ruled their people. Though their names change from island to island, the deities carry with them a duty and role as natural forces of nature that shape the lives of the People of the Great Ocean. Many of their myths are told through stories, passed down from one generation to the next, each depicting gods as elements of nature ever clashing and reshaping the land to their will: from the interactions between the furious Pele and her graceful sister Hi'iaka, to the separation of Rangi and Papa from their eternal embrace, to the famous Makemake and his Bird-Man cult, and even the misadventures of the trickster Maui, the myths of Polynesia still persist within the beliefs of the people to this day."

    Hi ya'll, just wanted to create a thread to compile all past and future works of the Polynesian Pantheon. Feel free to contribute (I would actually love it). NOTE: I AM NOT SAYING THAT THIS PANTHEON SHOULD BE THE NEXT ONE, BUT RATHER, IT WOULD BE COOL TO HAVE IT IN SMITE!



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    PELE - Nuker Mage. She has high burst AOE Damage, given that she has time to set up. She can create terraforms that interact with her overall damage output and mobility, as well as augmenting the damage of her ultimate ability.

    TU - Magical Guardian. An aggressive guardian that can deal executes to low health minions, as well as protecting nearby allies.

    RUAUMOKO - Physical Warrior. He can summon protrusions in the earth to act as an obstacle for enemies. His other abilities interact with the protrusion to deal additional damage to enemies. His ultimate turns him into a rock-fisted god who inflict terrible CCs on his targets.

    MAKEMAKE - Physical Assassin. He uses wards and objectives as a way to gain buffs, and can have excellent jungle control for early game.

    KANALOA (DefiantMars) - Magical Ranged Mage. Kanaloa is a mage designed to jungle. He possesses many tools to Isolate his enemies gaining increased scaling to his basic attacks. Once Kanaloa picks a target, it will be very difficult for them to escape his grasp.

    KAMOHOALI'I (LennyFace787) - Physical Melee Warrior. Kamahoali'i is dual stanced; Whenever he's submerged, he has a decreased vision range but gains the ability to detect enemies who moves. The detection range would be larger then the normal vision range (and ignores terrain). Enemies detected are shown as sillohuettes to Kamohoalii only.

    PELE (Razrtongue) - Magical Close-Ranged Off-Tank. Pele is a close-range mage with a time-based stance-dancing mechanic.

    MAUI (GameVeteranAzure)

    PELE (Zipper1204) - A kit loosely revolved around her ultimate, where most of her damage comes in..
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    In this section of the thread, I will try to give a better introduction to the Polynesian mythology.


    WHO ARE THE POLYNESIANS?
    "More of a loose collection of islands rather than a unified civilization, Polynesia boasts a rich culture and fascinating history. When most Europeans were mired in the Dark Ages, the Polynesians were perfecting the art of travelling across the mighty Pacific in small wooden canoes, navigating by the stars, weather, and wildlife. Eventually most of the islands were colonized by European powers, but much of the native culture and languages are still fiercely preserved for future generations."
    -CIV 5

    Many argue that Polynesians were the true conquerors of the Pacific, with land claims from New Zealand all the way to Hawai'i and Rapa Nui, and all the islands in between. The islands themselves are very much plutonic in nature, creating ideal beaches, stunning mountains, and azure atolls filled to the brim with aquatic life. Although paradise, the islands contain feared forces of nature like dangerous volcanoes, seasonal typhoons, earthquakes, and many more. These natural forces shape the island and its people, influencing things like their architecture, food, rituals, arts, and mythologies.



    WHAT IS THE POLYNESIAN MYTHOS?
    The Polynesians lived in a world created by their gods and heroes and felt a close involvement with them. Mythological references like "as deceitful as Maui" were a part of everyone's conversation. The lullaby for the baby, the story for the curious child, the idle tale to pass the time, all drew on the familiar themes. Simple prayers acknowledge the ever-present gods.Men also needed more specialised assistance to communicate with their gods. All labour was consecrated. The success of planting, fishing, canoe-making and house-building depended not only on correct technique but also correct ritual. The master-craftsman of every occupation therefore taught his successor both his technical skills and his correction of spells and legends.


    WHY CHOOSE POLYNESIA?
    Although it lacks a large following in terms of the gaming community, Polynesia in general is a fascinating topic to explore. Many of their cultures/beliefs are either misrepresented or underrepresented. Games that delve into the exploration of their cultures are few in numbers; those that do represent them sometimes exaggerate the exoticness rather than its essence. Polynesian culture is a pool not well-dipped, with many opting for more familiar options like Oriental, Medieval, Arabic, or Western culture. My only hope is to enlighten people on the various cultures within the Polynesian islands.

    What's more, Polynesian culture did give us the concept of "Mana" (LINK), so that's something.



    THE MYTHOLOGIES OF POLYNESIA:
    As living with the natural forces around them, the Polynesians have learned to respect these elements and assign them gods and goddesses. There were no grand temples, for the Earth itself was their temple. Every action performed was a ritual in honor of a deity. It's retelling and the way it is structured makes it unique from other mythologies found across the globe. However, colonization made an effort to remove these traditions from the Polynesian identity. Many stories were lost, many were changed, though this belief still persists to this day.


    LIST OF SOME POLYNESIAN DETIES:
    • MAUI - trickster hero/god whose legends include taming the sun with a net and pulling islands from the sea with his magical hook.
    • KANE - part of the Hawaiian creator trinity, Kane was the god of creation and growth.
    • PELE - infamous Hawaiian goddess of volcanoes with a penchant for tantrums. She is the matriarch of the Hawaiian Islands after she was exiled from Kahiki with her unborn sister after her anger caused worry from her family.
    • RANGI - God of the sky who was once held in an eternal embrace with his wife, Papa.
    • PAPA - Goddess of the earth who was once held in an eternal embrace with her husband, Rangi
    • ABERE - A demon who lurks in the swamps and lures victims to their deaths
    • HI'IAKA - Goddess of hula dance (and clouds) who started life as an egg carried by her sister, Pele.
    • HINENUITEPO - Goddess of Death, who was once a goddess of the Dawn until she was betrayed by those she called her own.
    • TU - An war god part of the creation trinity of the Hawaiian mythology. He was the one who initiated that they separate Rangi and Papa through bloodshed. He also held the storms at bay as Tane held up the skies.
    • TANE - diplomatic god of light and forests, who separated Papa and Rangi by making the trees hold up the sky.
    • KAPO - spirit of the South Pacific and creator of Magic. She once saved Pele from overzealous Kamapua'a.
    • MAKE-MAKE - Creator god and fertility deity of the Rapa Nui whose ritual involved the Bird-Man cult of Easter Island.
    • LAKA - goddess of the Lehua flower and is associated with the woodlands.
    • NAREAU - Spider creator god of the Kiribati people who dreamed up creation after hearing himself call himself from within the cocoon of heaven and earth.
    • TANGAROA - Oceanic whale god of fishing, fisherman, and fish life. Holds a grudge against Tane for taking half his children (which became lizards, evolution at work!)
    • KANALOA - God of the Underworld and Kane's brother. He was represented as a squid/octopus that helped guide ships safely through the seas, while taking with him those he deemed unworthy of the sea.
    • HINA - Goddess of the Moon and sister of Maui. It was her sacred hair that was used to capture the sun in the sky.
    • TAMANUITERA - God of the sun who was causing mischief by making the days run faster than humans can catch up with.
    • RONGO - God of Agriculture, especially of the sacred sweet potatoes.
    • RUAUMOKO - God of Earthquakes who lived inside Papa's womb after a great deluge caused by Rangi's tears. He is kept warm by the Tama-kaka.
    • DEGEI - Great serpent of the sky who nurtured the first humans, though receded under ground ever since. His movement causes the soil above to be fertile, and should mankind evoke his wrath, he shall swallow the world whole.
    • TAWHIRI - God of storms and the wind who was distraught for the separation of Rangi and Papa. Thus, he held a grudge against his brothers and waged eternal war with them. The clouds are his children.
    • POLI'AHU - Hawaiian goddess of the snow and beauty, who even the mighty Pele must bow before. She was betrayed by a man she once loved. For this, she cursed the man to be chilled to his bones.
    • MAHINA - Hawaiian goddess of the waning moon who was once a sacred fire goddess. However, after her husband was killed by humans, she fled to a far-flung island where she vowed vengeance against humans by taking the moon by pieces.
    • GOGA - The goddess of both fire and rain who kept the secret of fire to herself. After it was exposed by a young boy and accidentally lit the world ablaze, she wept and called for the cooling rain to wash the earth. Thus, she taught the people how to use the fires for rituals, cooking, and lighting the path.
    • ALULUEI - Multi-eyed god of Wisdom and Wayfinding. Legend states that his eyes were the stars that guided wayfinders as they traversed the Pacific.
    • BABAMIK - A crocodile-demonness who was once a cannibalistic tribeswoman.
    • KAMAPUA'A - The Boar-Man demigod whose endearing and romantic heart calmed the mighty Pele, turning her lava into fertile soil. Their start was rugged and tense, but after they made peace, they fell in love.
    • ROHE - goddess of the spirit world and wife of Maui who, after being angered by Maui, retreated to the underworld and made an army of undead to exact her revenge.
    • REHUA - God of the Stars and He Who Ushers in the New Year, who was so high that death cannot touch him. He has the power to cure sickness and blindness.
    • WHIRO - The god of darkness and the embodiment of evil who consumes the souls of the dearly departed. He will, one day, consume the world so that it may begin anew.
    • AUAHITUROA - God of Comets who spread the gift of fire to man. He is the son of the sun.
    • AROHIROHI - Was the goddess of illusions and mirages, who created women out of illusion and gave her voice. She was also associated with the shimmering heat of the sun.
    • HAUMI - God of the Wilderness, of the Hunt and of the Wild Animals and Plants. Spirit of Freedom.
    • WAKA - Goddess of Lizards who is said to protect young, virgin women from evil.
    • HAUMEA - goddess of childbirth and guardian of mothers
    • LONO - god of music and peace who descended to earth on a rainbow to usher in the golden ages.
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    You know, I have a theory. After the Japanese pantheon was added, we had a round 8 pantheons. Now, we have 9. I think Hi-Rez will add one more pantheon to get an even 10, and I think the Polynesian pantheon is one of, if not the, best contender.

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    I think Hi-Rez should focus on Hindu, Japanese and Celtic pantheon because they have least gods and at 100th god introduce new pantheon

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    There are still: Mesopotamian, Aztec, Slavic maybe...

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    Quote Originally Posted by Alphadios View Post
    There are still: Mesopotamian, Aztec, Slavic maybe...
    Mesopotamian: I don't see it. Possible, but it's so unheard of, I doubt it.
    Aztec: Way too similar to Mayan, you could make the argument that we have Greek and Roman already, so why not? But I still don't think so.
    Slavic: Definitely more possible than the other ones you presented, but I don't think that Slavic mythology fits the atmosphere of Smite.
    Polynesian: Is relatively popular, not very, but much more than Mesopotamian (Especially with the recent releases of Moana and Pokémon S&M). It's unique and eccentric. And, in my opinion, fits the atmosphere of Smite. Looking at it, it seems like Polynesian mythology checks all the boxes.
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    Quote Originally Posted by KungFuPanga View Post
    I think Hi-Rez should focus on Hindu, Japanese and Celtic pantheon because they have least gods and at 100th god introduce new pantheon
    I agree. Smite should probably take a little cool down lap. I think god 101 would be great for a new pantheon.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Alphadios View Post
    There are still: Mesopotamian, Aztec, Slavic maybe...
    Quote Originally Posted by KingDiamondZone View Post
    Mesopotamian: I don't see it. Possible, but it's so unheard of, I doubt it.
    Aztec: Way too similar to Mayan, you could make the argument that we have Greek and Roman already, so why not? But I still don't think so.
    Slavic: Definitely more possible than the other ones you presented, but I don't think that Slavic mythology fits the atmosphere of Smite.
    Polynesian: Is relatively popular, not very, but much more than Mesopotamian (Especially with the recent releases of Moana and Pokémon S&M). It's unique and eccentric. And, in my opinion, fits the atmosphere of Smite. Looking at it, it seems like Polynesian mythology checks all the boxes.

    1.) I do agree that there are a ton of pantheons out there that are more deserving to be in place than Polynesian Pantheon (especially from a business perspective). However, this is merely my interests in it and a compilation of Polynesian God Concepts. I am not proclaiming that the Polynesian Pantheon SHOULD be the next pantheon. Rather, I am merely saying that the Polynesian Pantheon COULD be an awesome pantheon to implement. In no way am I belittling the other pantheons, such as Slavic, Aztec, etc.

    2.) For the Mesopotamian Pantheon, I actually see it happening, especially considering it is one of the first, if not, the oldest pantheon in the world. It is entirely in the realm of possibility and it is also not unheard of.

    3.) Aztec pantheon is not "TOO" similar to the Mayans. The god's names may change but ultimately they have different beliefs and different stories. Some gods are uniquely Aztec, while others uniquely Mayan. In SMITE, the Greek and Roman Pantheons even acknowledge the other as being part of the same family, despite coming from two different pantheons. Whose to say Mayans and Aztecs won't do the same thing.

    4.) Slavic pantheon is in the realm of entirely possible. As to the argument that it doesn't fit the realm of SMITE, I disagree with that. The Slavic Pantheon is full of colorful characters that possess a certain charm to them. The gods reflect the cultures they come from. Roman gods are either warlike or festive like. Egyptian gods revolve around the cycle of life and death. Mayans are clothed with jungle outfits, fitting the location of where they came from. Likewise, the Slavic pantheon, coming from the woodlands and the steppes of Eastern Europe, would certainly add its own appeal in game. As to how likely they'll be picked, i'd put them in the low end since they just released a pantheon from the European continent. Releasing another would be overrepresenting the people of Europe.

    5.) Another popular request apparently is the Native American Pantheons, though I find that unlikely because imagine all the issues SMITE will have with "cultural appropriation".
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    If they add a tenth pantheon to the game, I'll be surprised.

    But there is plenty to choose from. :-)

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    Sorry if I came off as a bit argumentative before, I'll try to clarify what I meant.

    1) I wasn't trying to say that no one had heard of the Mesopotamian pantheon, but was relatively unheard of when compared to the other pantheons in Smite or the Polynesian pantheon. You would be hard-pressed to find anyone who hadn't heard of the Greek, Roman or Egyptian pantheons, the culture of Maya is pretty infamous for their human sacrifices, and the Hindu and Japanese pantheons are still practiced today. And the Celtic pantheon is pretty popular due to monsters from the pantheon (like the Banshee) showing in many video games and media, and due to the movies "Secret of the Kells", and "Song of the Sea", two movies based off Celtic mythology that have become popular in online circles. It is one of the oldest pantheons in the world, but that's all it has going for it, in my opinion.

    2) I stated in my original post that the Mayan and Aztec pantheons were in a VERY similar situation to the Greek and Roman pantheon, but, in my opinion, that doesn't justify it's inclusion. If anything, I think it's my main reason for feeling that it shouldn't be. The Greek and Roman pantheons have a special relationship, which I have mixed feelings about. On one hand, it makes both pantheons a little more interesting, on the other hand, it makes both a little less unique. Replicating this relationship will take away what's special about it, having only negative consequences. And, though the cultures have separate underlying themes, in many other ways they are similar (Visually, culturally, etc.), though I suppose it depends on your personal opinion on how similar is too similar.

    3) Now, If the Mesopotamian pantheon was added, I would be a bit confused, if Aztec was added, I would be a little peeved, If Slavic was added, I would welcome it. I would be maybe a little disappointed, but I would welcome it nonetheless. My problem with the Slavic pantheon is that in my opinion, it's fairly dull. It has it's perks, but in my opinion, it's not as extravagant as the other pantheons. That's what I meant by "not fitting the theme of Smite", I can see it has a huge possibility, but it just doesn't seem as ancient or awe-inspiring. This is, however, just my opinion, and I'm not completely opposed to the inclusion of the Slavic pantheon, though I do believe the Polynesian pantheon is more deserving.

    I hope this maybe clarified my argument without sounding argumentative.
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