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    Back Door Protection removal . Now what do we do?

    So there was a thread about how it makes no sense and it just not justified. Now I will say that I personally hated the fact that backdoor protections could be removed by pets and when 4.1 dropped and the rallying ritual showed up I think that was a bit much as well. Remember this has no cooldown. and i still think a lot of gods will be doing the back door thing because its never actually going to stop. It just going to be a bit harder. Also i think they said this protection removal does nothing for Loki so now every other god that back doors will be doing it like Loki.

    Nu Wa and Bastet got some buffs to their damage which isn't bad. However I have seen people complaining that these buffs are useless. The Nu Wa i think is good. I can't really say for Bastet because I barely play her.

    Now Vulcan got no changes which i think is fine(hate me later if you want). I don't think anyone really picks Vulcan and then says oh well I'll just go back door a few towers. The Bakasura however kinda annoys me that nothing has been done. Bakasura in general I think needs some work.

    Now I'd would like to know what you think should be done about these gods and specifically their backdoor ability. Remember there pets can still tank structure damage and damage the the tower as well(Loki's decoy is the exception). I had the idea to let the pets take reduced damage from the structures so they would be able to tank longer. Or remove structure damage progression on pets. Or let the pets have a portion of your penetration against structures. these would not affect the titan however because i feel like the titan just dies so easily since it can take ability damage unlike towers or phoenixes which can only be killed with basic damage.

    Also understand that they removed backdoor protections and not the actual act of back dooring which you can obviously do. Now its just going to be the same as doing it with LOKI who by the way is pretty damn good at it. Understand that Loki's decoy acted as a god not a pet or so I've been told.

    SO thoughts anyone? Oh also I'm not quite sure what's going on with Skadi and Kaldr since i saw no changes.
    (and if anyone saw this on reddit that was also me)

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    Skadi got no changes which made no sense at all. She just keep seeing nerfs

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    Quote Originally Posted by McKnightrider View Post
    Skadi got no changes which made no sense at all. She just keep seeing nerfs
    I was thinking that myself, she wasn't even mentioned. The movement buff is nice (though makes zero difference vs likes of Thanatos - her mobility is as much an issue as it's ever been). This indirect nerf means she's even less a viable pick vs the alternatives. The dog got nerfed (yet again), her clear is still weaker than majority of the the hunters... She's not in a good place IMO.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Skode View Post
    I was thinking that myself, she wasn't even mentioned. The movement buff is nice (though makes zero difference vs likes of Thanatos - her mobility is as much an issue as it's ever been). This indirect nerf means she's even less a viable pick vs the alternatives. The dog got nerfed (yet again), her clear is still weaker than majority of the the hunters... She's not in a good place IMO.
    Her clear is perfectly acceptable, she's rocking 15% more scaling than Ullr's 1 and 10 less base damage than Apollo's at max rank.

    The only unacceptable nerf was nerfing Kaldr's base damage to 40-80%. He hardly hurts early game and is even more useless outside of Piercing Cold's effect.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Enigmatisty View Post
    Her clear is perfectly acceptable, she's rocking 15% more scaling than Ullr's 1 and 10 less base damage than Apollo's at max rank.

    The only unacceptable nerf was nerfing Kaldr's base damage to 40-80%. He hardly hurts early game and is even more useless outside of Piercing Cold's effect.
    Exactly, how the hell did they come up with those nerfs to Skadi? She needed buffs only and now that she got another indirect nerf, she is kinda screwed, hope Hirez reverts the Kaldr nerf and gives her some compensation....
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    Quote Originally Posted by Skode View Post
    I was thinking that myself, she wasn't even mentioned. The movement buff is nice (though makes zero difference vs likes of Thanatos - her mobility is as much an issue as it's ever been)
    Quote Originally Posted by Skode View Post
    her clear is still weaker than majority of the the hunters
    i didnt think peeps can be even more scrub but this made it for me lmao
    so a 40% MS buff, freely accessable with a strong cc and lasting 3 sec is shit mobility?
    Also what makes her clear bad? she has 2 clearing abilities which is better than most hunters (and actually pretty much every hunter)
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    and why is nerfing Skadi the topic of discussion?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Skode View Post
    her clear is still weaker than majority of the the hunters...
    Since when 440+110% is weaker than majority of the Hunters becuz no one said her 1 is the only wawe clear
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    Quote Originally Posted by MrBubbles091 View Post
    and why is nerfing Skadi the topic of discussion?
    Because people like cheesy tactics with her instead of looking at her abilities^^
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    Who the fuck thinks bastet is now weaker?

    You still can shred towers with bane + jotunns fine, and you now have buffed passive ontop of it for easier early game dominance.
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