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    Where's the new system of easier rank climbing?

    So Hi-Rez implemented these changes which make climbing ranks easier. This means that we are supposed to earn more TP than we lose but at least for me it's the other thing around.

    After I got my rank I was on a loosing spree a bit and after several games I lost rank. Even though I was loosing up to 15-17 TP per match I still knew that the possibility to derank is quite big and I accepted it. However after I dropped my rank I started the winning spree. From 8 ranked games I won 7 (yet I have few more won matches, I'm lazy to check them right now but I'm 100% sure about the 7win spree) and all I got was 5-6-7 TP per match. So even though I won close to 10 games (with no more than 2-3 losses in between)
    I still need ~10 TP to rank up.
    At first I thought that this system just needs some time and after certain time I'll get something like 10 TP per win giving the fact I lose 15-17 per match. But no matter how good/bad I did I never got more than 6-7 TP.

    Now I wouldn't create this thread if Hi-Rez haven't claimed that this system will indeed make climbing ranks easier but they did it quite clearly. I put aside the strange ranked placements (S3 Bronze gets S4 Diamond and the same thing around). I'm just curious what happened to these changes? Does anyone have the same issue as me? Do you lose 3 times more TP than you win?

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    Quote Originally Posted by EnemaGod View Post
    So Hi-Rez implemented these changes which make climbing ranks easier. This means that we are supposed to earn more TP than we lose but at least for me it's the other thing around.

    After I got my rank I was on a loosing spree a bit and after several games I lost rank. Even though I was loosing up to 15-17 TP per match I still knew that the possibility to derank is quite big and I accepted it. However after I dropped my rank I started the winning spree. From 8 ranked games I won 7 (yet I have few more won matches, I'm lazy to check them right now but I'm 100% sure about the 7win spree) and all I got was 5-6-7 TP per match. So even though I won close to 10 games (with no more than 2-3 losses in between)
    I still need ~10 TP to rank up.
    At first I thought that this system just needs some time and after certain time I'll get something like 10 TP per win giving the fact I lose 15-17 per match. But no matter how good/bad I did I never got more than 6-7 TP.

    Now I wouldn't create this thread if Hi-Rez haven't claimed that this system will indeed make climbing ranks easier but they did it quite clearly. I put aside the strange ranked placements (S3 Bronze gets S4 Diamond and the same thing around). I'm just curious what happened to these changes? Does anyone have the same issue as me? Do you lose 3 times more TP than you win?
    They implented it in Qualifiers so now anyone can get Diamond from Qualifiers and its super easy to climb aswell
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    Then what's the point? Basically Bronze is now place for literally full-braindead people who can't even use WASD? It's almost impossible to Qualify as a Bronze player. And my question is mainly for the climbing which in my case is not easy - instead it's quite hard. That means I have to win 3 games in order to neutralize the 1 loss. I need above 75% winning rate in order to be able to rank up (I apologize if the % is wrong)?

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    Quote Originally Posted by EnemaGod View Post
    Then what's the point? Basically Bronze is now place for literally full-braindead people who can't even use WASD? It's almost impossible to Qualify as a Bronze player. And my question is mainly for the climbing which in my case is not easy - instead it's quite hard. That means I have to win 3 games in order to neutralize the 1 loss. I need above 75% winning rate in order to be able to rank up (I apologize if the % is wrong)?
    The system thinks you dont belong where you are so it try to push you down and i know the feel in Season 2 i had to win 3 games and lose one to be able climb becuz i ended up with 74% winrate in Diamond 5 from Bronze 5 so it was a real hell to climb without skipping any rank but now in Season 4 i got Diamond IV just from Qualifiers wich is ridicilous
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    Great so basically ELO hell is back is that so? The statement "back" is even irrelevant because looks like it has never been removed - therefore nothing is changed except now from Qualifiers you can get Diamond and drop rapidly.

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    Quote Originally Posted by EnemaGod View Post
    Great so basically ELO hell is back is that so? The statement "back" is even irrelevant because looks like it has never been removed - therefore nothing is changed except now from Qualifiers you can get Diamond and drop rapidly.
    Well, isn't that what everyone, i mean, the majority of the ranked population wanted, a hard reset for a chance to be placed in high ranks, because they think that an imaginary "elo hell" is preventing them from getting there?

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    It's still hillarious to see noone beng Bronze 5 in Conquest still.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Raptoriuzz View Post
    It's still hillarious to see noone beng Bronze 5 in Conquest still.
    There are three people in it as of yesterday. It is a more exclusive group than Grandmaster.
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    There are three people in it as of yesterday. It is a more exclusive group than Grandmaster.
    I think I should start grind then.
    This feeling when your team is far behind and you have no prospects for late game but for some reason players still doesnt want to surrender - MOBA Cancer.

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    Quote Originally Posted by RainbowSplat View Post
    The system thinks you dont belong where you are so it try to push you down and i know the feel in Season 2 i had to win 3 games and lose one to be able climb becuz i ended up with 74% winrate in Diamond 5 from Bronze 5 so it was a real hell to climb without skipping any rank but now in Season 4 i got Diamond IV just from Qualifiers wich is ridicilous
    I have to agree with 'EnemaGod', the system isn't doing it's job correctly. As of the past week, I've been constantly losing more TP than what I am gaining. I need to win 2 games in order to neutralize one lose, it is absolutely ridiculous. What is the point of putting oneself through ranked conquest for 40 minutes to weild bad results eventhough you deserve higher sometimes? Another reason why I hardly play ranked conquest.

    Additionally, personal performance should contribute to TP - if you did considerably better than your teammates you don't deserve to lose -15 TP due to their incompetence.
    Who is it that decides this ''worth''? Who has the right to decide such a thing? The light of dawn and curtain of nightfall, they bathe us all equally without discrimination - Humans, Giants, Fairies, Goddesses and Demons...

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