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    The end of Backdoor

    They did it. They nerfed The Crusher and, now, they made summons not removing Backdoor Protection anymore.


    Arachné for her spiders(alright, hard to use since needing ennemy minions).
    Artemis(well, okay...Tusky just for this...).
    Bakasura for his ulti.
    Bastet for her cats.
    Kuzenbo and his turtle.
    Loki and his Decoy.
    Nu Wa and her minions.
    Skadi and Kaldr.
    Vulcan and his turret.


    All these chars have been nerved. It means they can't act on their own neither with their team if minions aren't fast enough(just like in a final rush).

    On the opposite, it's a buff for all who are already good for split pushing(Apollo, Mercury, Chronos, Thor(?))...chars we already see a lot for most of them. What do you think about this change?
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    Loki Decoy never removed protections from towers as far i know here is even the proof

    https://www.reddit.com/r/Smite/comme...7b&sh=50412dbd
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    Well, it's Loki, we don't really mind him after all.
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    Well "the end" of backdoor is a bit far stretched i would say.

    Each and every god with minions is still able to split push towers. I mean Loki does it for seasons now and he is not the only one who can use Hydra for towers.
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    Actually, I don't understand this nerf at all. Deployables/pets have never been able to ignore tower protections unless I'm mistaken in that they work with items like Titan's Bane. Even so no one used them for shred, they were used to soak up damage while you can take the tower out. This isn't as big of a nerf because backdooring is still possible.
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    Deployables/pets have never been able to ignore tower protections unless I'm mistaken
    You are mistaken, minions and pets double damage vs towers(you deal 50% of normal damage without them).

    For example Bastet before nerf hit 150 damage from her AA with her cats, now would be 75 damage.
    This feeling when your team is far behind and you have no prospects for late game but for some reason players still doesnt want to surrender - MOBA Cancer.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Enigmatisty View Post
    Actually, I don't understand this nerf at all. Deployables/pets have never been able to ignore tower protections unless I'm mistaken in that they work with items like Titan's Bane. Even so no one used them for shred, they were used to soak up damage while you can take the tower out. This isn't as big of a nerf because backdooring is still possible.
    When there are no minions in the tower the tower gets far less dmg. Deployable minions removed that bonus protection like regular minions would. Or did you never notice that you deal less dmg when there are no minions in the tower ?
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    Chronos now is the best backdoor god but also one of the best split pushers just not as safe as Loki or Apollo but no one picks Loki in Ranked since he is trash so yea
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    how did this change come about anyway ? i never thought it was really any issuse
    was it community driving complaints ?
    pro league feedback or just a hi rez decision to change the game play ?

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    It seems more like this was an inside decision; HR may have been contemplating the backdoor nerfs for as early as conceiving the first S4 patch changes and began dishing out small nerfs; Kaldr's damage nerf, and Nu Wa's minions being able to deal Magical Damage so they can use pen, etc. I hate this because they don't explain the exact reasons for doing so causing confusion until the next or so patch.

    Quote Originally Posted by Ichimarou View Post
    When there are no minions in the tower the tower gets far less dmg. Deployable minions removed that bonus protection like regular minions would. Or did you never notice that you deal less dmg when there are no minions in the tower ?
    Took me a day but I understand now. xD
    Last edited by Enigmatisty; 02-24-2017 at 06:02 PM.
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