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    Lightbulb What is the future of Afro and Hel ?

    This two goddess is my favorite god and they got most hatred of Hi-Rez since the release.

    Hel has her moment when she got release
    but after that, it's her nightmare
    she got only nerf and nerf overall
    anti heal is extremely strong and curse can buy at level 1 for free
    her cleanse require to aim why other CC immune doesn't
    her scaling is bad after all the nerf she got
    her cooldwon is bad and CDR is a need for her
    her mana comsumsion is desperately high
    her conquest is bad
    duel is bad even tho it used to be her throne
    even in arena or clash is bad
    she doesn't has her place in smite after all
    it like she born as the most beautiful daughter of hHi Rez and then they jealous of her talent and decide to put her on the ground forever

    in the other hand
    Afro doesn't really has her good moment since her release
    she like the least favorite daughter of Hi Rez that they want to get rid of her asap
    her heal over time is bad because only 2 target heal
    her minion clear is bad because it's DOT so any healer could heal them back to full
    her ult is a shame because many god can do what her ult does she just has a ton of cooldown in exchange for that reaction during CC
    she got no mobility to escape or speed buff to out run
    her scaling is horrible and her cooldown is amazingly long
    she just need to carry game to late game or else she just a feeding machine
    she doesn't has the game mode that she's good at beside MOTD joust the 2 of us or Duel Siege
    seriously i don't think anyone play her in conquest except dmbradon (but he's a pro player, do we really want a god that can only play by a pro player because they got enough skill ?)


    Well I'm not here to complain (at least not all of it)
    I just want to ask you guys how to make them comeback, not too OP, just playable
    maybe just maybe, if and only if our comment can put Hi-Rez's mind to make our wish come true

    My idea will be in the comment section down below.

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    The best solution would be to remove every mode except for assault.

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    For Hel,
    She need lower cooldown, lower mana consumsion at every single abilities.
    Her cleanse need to be AOV around her when use and no need to aim.
    Her base power of every single each ability need to has higher base but no need for more scaling. She will has a better early game and not too OP late game.
    I wish they could add maximum anti heal state at 40% or 50% but that might never happening anyway.

    For Afro
    She need lower cooldown and higher base power.
    Her scaling can rely on late game but her early and mid is unexceptable.
    She can barely heal anyone during the early to mid game, she need more base power to keep her existence.
    Increase her scaling only make her more late game god which she has no need for it.
    Her Back Off could give her movement speed buff and anti slow.
    Her Kiss could steal enemy's protection to add up her own.
    Her passive could be damage mitigation (2% for each god around her might be good) instead of sadly low raw protection.
    Her Ult could stack up for multiple use like Agni and has 30 second cooldown for new stack. So that she will not be overshine by Chang'e or Xbalan's immunity ability.

    This is my ideas, what's yours?

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    Odin says hi.
    As long as he exist, he will be a problem in ranked or competitive. Either you ban him but then allow the other team to pick a more OP God, either you ban the OP god but then be countered.

    Looking to pro games, Ra seems to came back during the last LANS. So we saw some Odins bans, but not necessarily every time a Ra was picked. So why ? Because Hel and Aphro are only played around their insane heal, while Ra's heal is just a part of his kit. He still have burst with ult and good insta dmgs on his 1.
    He also has a better clear, so he struggles less in early.
    Odin has has so less impact on this healer.

    So now what would be done for Aphro and Hell ?
    Maybe raise a bit defenses and HP base stats and gain per level.
    That could be the start.
    Otherwise I don't really have great ideas

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    Unless you are talking about just Conquest which it doesn't seem like you are. Then both are perfectly fine in many modes. And those modes you mention Aphrodite does fine in no she is completely broken in those matches. Any match were you don't have 5 people Aphrodite will perform much better with her single target heal.

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    Aphrodite doesn't need ANY changes whatsoever. She's been balanced for quite a while.

    The only buffs I would find acceptable is if her 2 provided a knockback and a slow if the blast originated from her, and the same as it is now if she's linked to someone. And the second buff would be making her ult 1-2 seconds instead of .8-2.

    Oh, and a cooldown and mana reduction on her 1.
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    Hel is indeed very poor and could do with Hades-like base stats, but Aphrodite is actually a good pick. High sustain, decent damage (her scalings are 60% and 90%, so they're actually average), high survivability, and good peel. DMBrandon can go suck a dick; he's far from the only person who's made Aphrodite work.
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    Hel needs a new skin, that'll make her viable

    On serious note tho her 1 could see some increase

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    Quote Originally Posted by IceQueenLaSaia View Post
    Hel needs a new skin, that'll make her viable

    On serious note tho her 1 could see some increase
    Whats up with the red text?

    Hel's 1 does alot of damage but it could use a buff to be more in line with the totally balanced scylla type of damage


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    Quote Originally Posted by Charmander787 View Post
    Whats up with the red text?

    Hel's 1 does alot of damage but it could use a buff to be more in line with the totally balanced scylla type of damage
    Specially if you count that her light 1 is the only single target ability i can think of. AoE doing the same than single target attacks is something really fun to think about

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