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    Quote Originally Posted by SilentKnightAvS View Post
    Doesn't seem to be able to do much in solo as far as i have seen Zhong's there. But they seem to be ridiculous late game.

    I haven't seen a single Zhong win his lane against a warrior.
    The only one wariror that beats me in lane is Tyr cus fuck that bullshit overpowered scumbag which you cant punish due to his ridiculous heal and tons of mobility. Lets not even mention damage. SWK is dangerous and can score easy firstblood in first 6 levels, if you wont feed then its gg. Ravana, Bellona, Hebo whatever no issues so far. Zhong is easy af to gank tho

    Tbh i still dont get why people moan at me "plz frontline no mage" or "its not s1" sort of stuff. 3k hp late is something i would consider quite tanky..

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    Quote Originally Posted by SilentKnightAvS View Post
    Doesn't seem to be able to do much in solo as far as i have seen Zhong's there. But they seem to be ridiculous late game.

    I haven't seen a single Zhong win his lane against a warrior.



    Pretty sure he doesn't lack hard CC because he already has a 1.8 second stun. Giving him any more would be a little much.
    If used properly, zhong can easily clear a wave very efficiently at level 2-3 while also healing himself.

    Solo isn't the only role he can play.

    If people you see can't win their lanes it's not necessarily the god's fault. Most certainly isn't in this case, that's for sure.

    Quote Originally Posted by Ulthrig View Post
    Zhong is easy af to gank tho
    Zhong literally has the perfect kit to 5v1 an entire enemy team. He's not easy to gank, he's gonna 2v1 you, and even if he doesn't his team is gonna get a free gf cause of your rotation to solo.

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    Quote Originally Posted by MagicFighter View Post
    A reduction in stacks would be a bigger nerf than a buff.
    Not really. You can reduce stacks but increase prot per stack. It is what, 2 per stack atm? Cut it to 10 stacks and give it 4 prot per stack.

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    Quote Originally Posted by SilentKnightAvS View Post
    Doesn't seem to be able to do much in solo as far as i have seen Zhong's there. But they seem to be ridiculous late game.

    I haven't seen a single Zhong win his lane against a warrior.
    That's not really just Zhong, that is Solo Mages in general.
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    Quote Originally Posted by MagicFighter View Post
    That's not really just Zhong, that is Solo Mages in general.
    I'd beg to differ on that consider I have won many games in lane as a mage against a warrior. Mainly as Hades, but I took a long hiatus on him.

    Mages in solo can work easily, but a good chunk of them can easily counter them. Of course, mages like Chang'e can counter some warriors as well.
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    Quote Originally Posted by DarkFuma View Post
    I'd beg to differ on that consider I have won many games in lane as a mage against a warrior.
    How many of those matches did people invade your blue buff or pressure you early on to abuse an advantage that they would have over a Lv. 1-2 Mage like they should have?
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    Quote Originally Posted by MagicFighter View Post
    How many of those matches did people invade your blue buff or pressure you early on to abuse an advantage that they would have over a Lv. 1-2 Mage like they should have?
    Depends on the god. A Ravana, for example, was literally my ban while Bellona and Chaac got destroyed in comparison. As for blue buff, with the exception of the first time, I never really needed it. All I use is soul stone and that pretty much covers my mana.
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    Quote Originally Posted by MagicFighter View Post
    How many of those matches did people invade your blue buff or pressure you early on to abuse an advantage that they would have over a Lv. 1-2 Mage like they should have?
    How many times have we gone through this same bullshit excuse just for me to tell you that you have double standards saying mages/other gods are bad cause they're easy to invade when you consider ao, the weakest earlygame god currently available top tier?

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    Quote Originally Posted by SilentKnightAvS View Post
    Pretty sure he doesn't lack hard CC because he already has a 1.8 second stun. Giving him any more would be a little much.
    The only things he's short on or lacking entirely are hard CC and mobility
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    ZK's stun works like Chang'e's heal in that: It's not instant, has a blind spot.
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