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    Machine gun gods and why you shouldn't ask for mobility on them

    You know those guys. The machine guns. Heavy hitters that can only get somewhere on foot. They always appear at the bottom of tier lists - which are the epitome of theorycrafting and talking out the ass, but that's for another thread.

    Artemis, Anubis, AMC and Ah Puch, correct me if I've forgotten someone.

    Well, there's a reason why they're like that. The lack of mobility is the price they pay for unparalleled damage (Ah Puch has a shitty, overnerfed ultimate, but that doesn't change his basic design idea). Artemis gets free crits, the strongest attack speed steroid and a way to hold people in place to tear them new ones. AMC has a constant steroid, paired with heavy hitting abilities, Anubis is the Tzar Bomba, able to wipe out even tanks with his combo. Ah Puch does the same to squishies without needing his (again, shitty) ultimate and on a ridiculously short cooldown.

    So realize that if they gave those guys mobility, their damage would need to be nerfed, at the risk of no other gods being played. If they did that, the machine gun guys would be turned into... bland, generic gods, as their kit is all geared to damage.

    "They can't be played at high skill levels", I hear some of you saying.

    Oh, is it? I thought high skill meant not getting yourself into trouble, having map awareness, warding, buying the right actives, avoid chasing people into the unknown, playing with the team and being saved by them if needed. Machine guns require very smart play and can only be played by the smartest past level 30. There's nothing wrong with that.

    TL/DR: high risk, high reward is good design.
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    B-b-but Lux, I need my I-win button so I can get ez kills. Plox.

    In honesty it's a mechanics issue that I brought up in my other thread. If it's not in line with other Gods then there are people going to QQ because they are inept to play around the God's weaknesses.

    Casual and pros alike want a universal, bland, and boring style of play so they don't want to place in the effort to play.

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    Can you post some masters ranked gameplay of anubis and ah puch in conquest, as I can't find any.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Yundex View Post
    Can you post some masters ranked gameplay of anubis and ah puch in conquest, as I can't find any.
    Two words: 1) who 2) cares?

    Ranked is just casual with bragging rights. Casual is less casual because you can have a full team, blind picks aside.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Yundex View Post
    Can you post some masters ranked gameplay of anubis and ah puch in conquest, as I can't find any.
    Exactly. The only place where those gods are slightly playable(talking about conquest) are casuals and bronze hell. On higher levels that lack of mobility they trade for damage will just get punished with extreme brutality.

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    Yes sheep yourselves to the meta. Have you played any of these gods in a ranked game Armored and Yundex? Like Lux said it takes a smart and skilled player to use them to their fullest.

    Question why is Poseidon viable but not Ah puch? A little movement speed? How about Isis?. Zeus has no escape but he is considered good. Notice how every god Lux and I mentioned has awesome zoning and lane control.
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    Not having mobility is better anyways because it means you have 4 skills designed to kick the ass of your opponents.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Yundex View Post
    Can you post some masters ranked gameplay of anubis and ah puch in conquest, as I can't find any.

    I know this isn't quite what you were asking for, but this was the first to come to mind. I'll keep an eye out for games from their perspective though, if you're looking to get better with them.

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    Quote Originally Posted by LuxInterior View Post
    Two words: 1) who 2) cares?

    Ranked is just casual with bragging rights. Casual is less casual because you can have a full team, blind picks aside.
    I care because i'm trying to learn, fuck me right.

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    Quote Originally Posted by HawkboyJr View Post

    I know this isn't quite what you were asking for, but this was the first to come to mind. I'll keep an eye out for games from their perspective though, if you're looking to get better with them.
    Yeah if there is a replay to see his perspective that helps before I do conquest.
    Edit: I will try smiteguru match id actually might work.
    Last edited by Yundex; 03-29-2016 at 01:20 PM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Yundex View Post
    I care because i'm trying to learn, fuck me right.
    You can't really tell when someone is trying to be a douche on the internet. Didn't know your comment was a legit request. Usually a question like that is coming from a grade A troll.
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    Not having mobility is better anyways because it means you have 4 skills designed to kick the ass of your opponents.

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