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    Chang'e has a high skill ceiling? She's one of the easiest gods in the game and has a free aegis in her kit. She also has that stupid movespeed bonus that lets her get out of things so easily. To play Chang'e well you keep pressing 1, you have mastered her.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Drago55577 View Post
    Chang'e has a high skill ceiling? She's one of the easiest gods in the game and has a free aegis in her kit. She also has that stupid movespeed bonus that lets her get out of things so easily. To play Chang'e well you keep pressing 1, you have mastered her.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Drago55577 View Post
    Chang'e has a high skill ceiling? She's one of the easiest gods in the game and has a free aegis in her kit. She also has that stupid movespeed bonus that lets her get out of things so easily. To play Chang'e well you keep pressing 1, you have mastered her.
    There is a difference between being able to play and being able to master. Hell, hades is easy to ply but not so easy to master.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Drago55577 View Post
    Chang'e has a high skill ceiling? She's one of the easiest gods in the game and has a free aegis in her kit. She also has that stupid movespeed bonus that lets her get out of things so easily. To play Chang'e well you keep pressing 1, you have mastered her.
    You don't like Chang'e we get it. Her abilities are all so weak compared to other mages. Evasion is what she relies on she is an evasion Goddess. Takes lots of skill to master.

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    Chang'e is bad for the same reason levery other healer is bad, anti healing is too strong now.

    Chang'e used to be a good solo, she only works as a counter to Vamana and Guan now.

    You can pick up curse level 1 and bully any healer out of solo. Healers can go into mid, but they'll generally get bullies put by isis' push or get hopelessly outrotated by Janus.

    I've made Hel mid work before, but it isn't easy.

    Curse needs to be nerfed for healers to be viable again. The anti heal is fine, but it shouldn't slow or at least not slow that much.

    Anti Healing hurts, you use it right before the enemy can heal themselves and kill them. It shouldn't have the slow to guarantee the death.

    The slow makes it a "I can pick this up any time and it'll be great for a team wide slow." It shouldn't be used to confirm early kills in duo.

    It's purpose is anti healing, but people pick it up for the slow. It needs to be JUST an anti healing item. It would still be viable in duo to shut down enemy lifesteal, and healers would have more chance to escape when it hits.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Fusionsamurai View Post
    Curse needs to be nerfed for healers to be viable again.
    You mad?

    Without curse yes, you boost healers. And give total immortality to warriors.


    Chang'e is fine, imho, just give her a little boost on heals (not so much) and something to compensate her disabled passive in assault.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Vashwix View Post
    Without curse yes, you boost healers. And give total immortality to warriors.
    For that reason, magical healers need to be balanced through magical power items (so that warriors can't buy them) or direct buffs. The issue is that the two magical "healer" items, Lotus Crown and Rod of Asclepius, are already very good for their cost. Buffing them doesn't make sense to me.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Afilia View Post
    For that reason, magical healers need to be balanced through magical power items (so that warriors can't buy them) or direct buffs. The issue is that the two magical "healer" items, Lotus Crown and Rod of Asclepius, are already very good for their cost. Buffing them doesn't make sense to me.
    Many healers doesn't understand that their heals scale with power, btw.

    And Lotus crown... i hate that item. It is good, but NOT as starter. Too many people starts with that cause "there is write <on healing>". It sucks, at starts. Any healer, expecially aphro and sylvanus, NEEDS cooldown reduction at start. Chronos pendant, or breastplate if enemies are physical.

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    I like Chang'e just the way she is right now.
    I don't really feel she needs a CHANG'E to her kit at all.
    Her healing isn't fantastic as well as her damage in general, at the cost of being a well rounded god.
    Although I wouldn't mind a small healing/damage/cooldown reduction buff.

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