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    ^If you're aiming to kill squishies you should use a variation of the build I posted since flat pen is going to allow you to do a lot more damage than Obsidian Shard will.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Splifflord LaFleur View Post
    ^If you're aiming to kill squishies you should use a variation of the build I posted since flat pen is going to allow you to do a lot more damage than Obsidian Shard will.
    If that is what you are only going for. But with the Obsidian Shard and Poly you can do some serious objective damage and hit tankier targets too. Again this is not for conquest but for other game modes. You will still kill squishies in one combo with this build.

    *Edit.. actually did the maths. Obsidian shard gives more pen at max lvl still, while also giving more power. So no, the flat damage will at end game not help you kill squishies more.
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    Your might want to do the math again and actually do it correctly this time then.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Splifflord LaFleur View Post
    Your might want to do the math again and actually do it correctly this time then.
    Neith will at lvl 20 have 48 magical protections (no defense built at all). If we strip 33% she will have ~32 magical protections. If we would have taken away 15 magical protections she would have had 33 magical protections.
    Do the maths yourself before being rude about it, because you are apparently wrong.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Denniswenger View Post
    I really don't understand how you can say this, his damage is among the best of the guardians.
    Indeed dmg baccus can dish out a lot of damage he can even semi carry in arena get a few levels on people and you will wack a mole them with your stick. It depends on their picks though. If they have a very dangerous squish without escape like amuzen he will be your food all game.
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    Rocking the boat

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    Quote Originally Posted by Denniswenger View Post
    Neith will at lvl 20 have 48 magical protections (no defense built at all). If we strip 33% she will have ~32 magical protections. If we would have taken away 15 magical protections she would have had 33 magical protections.
    Do the maths yourself before being rude about it, because you are apparently wrong.
    Since when does 10+15=15?

    Math is obviously not your strong suit.

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    Damage Bacchus is fun but in my experience when others see him picked they expect a strait tank.

    I also think gods like Ymir work a bit better with damage builds and prefer tank Bacchus.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Splifflord LaFleur View Post
    Since when does 10+15=15?

    Math is obviously not your strong suit.
    Jeez, you are extremely rude.
    Tell me where you get the 10 pen from? Void stone reduces 15.
    So the pen you get from Obsidian Shard will be one more against hunters than what Void Stone gives.

    To get complicated though. If you have a team mate with you that uses Spear of the Magus, then Void Stone will give you more pen. But as long as this is just you against a hunter Obsidian Shard will give more than Void Stone.

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    Wow, came back to this to find a lot of feedback on my build. Thanks
    And guys, please don't fight on my thread. It's only maths.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Denniswenger View Post
    To get complicated though. If you have a team mate with you that uses Spear of the Magus, then Void Stone will give you more pen. But as long as this is just you against a hunter Obsidian Shard will give more than Void Stone.
    If we're still talking about the build you suggested, it lacks pen boots and has Obsidian Shard as the only penetration item, which takes away some of its raw damage potential.

    Pen boots and Void Stone do quite well for Bacchus since all of his abilities require him to have the targets well within range of Void Stone's debuff aura. If you're jonesing for more CDR than what BoV gives you, Mail of Renewal or something can be worked in.

    Obsidian Shard isn't a terribly good item except for objective damage (Bacchus isn't exactly celebrated for his tower-razing potential) unless you are up against some absolutely absurd protection values that almost no one builds.

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