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    Penetration will give you better ability damage,...

    Penetration will give you better ability damage, crit will give you better basic attack damage. Ideally you should have both in your final build.
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    Look on the bright side, this isn't a MOBA where...

    Look on the bright side, this isn't a MOBA where being hit by a 2 second stun and a 3 second stun at the same time stuns you for 5 seconds.
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    Crit does significantly higher DPS while the Sais...

    Crit does significantly higher DPS while the Sais build is cheaper and comes online sooner, this has always been the case, it's just that price changes and item nerfs have made it more pronounced. At...
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    Divine Ruin and Pestilence definitely stack.

    Divine Ruin and Pestilence definitely stack.
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    Warrior Tabi into Soul Eater.

    Warrior Tabi into Soul Eater.
  6. Well protections do have decreasing deficiency so...

    Well protections do have decreasing deficiency so a squishy Mage is definitely getting a bigger increase in effective health from a defensive item than like a Guardian with 2 other defensive items.
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    The standard build is Bumba's Mask (assuming...

    The standard build is Bumba's Mask (assuming jungle), Warrior Tabi, Golden Bow, Deathbringer, Malice, Soul Eater, Titan's Bane. The idea is that you stack up his passive then use his mobility to get...
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    Qin's Sais, between the power, attack speed and...

    Qin's Sais, between the power, attack speed and passive, increases Kali's DPS more than any other item in the game at any point in her build. So if your goal is burst (AKA killing someone in as few...
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    I find that early game with Kali I'm relying more...

    I find that early game with Kali I'm relying more on Lash's damage to get kills then I am multiple basic attacks, which is why I prefer Warrior Tabi. But if you're just looking at maximising DPS...
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    You get Warrior Tabi because her build is quite...

    You get Warrior Tabi because her build is quite power-starved for most of the game while having an abundance of attack speed. You can sell them off for Ninja Tabi late game though.
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    Your core is Warrior Tabi, Hastened Fatalis,...

    Your core is Warrior Tabi, Hastened Fatalis, Qin's Sais and The Executioner. Ichaival can be built early to help with your power curve, Asi can be built for lifesteal, Rage and Deathbringer are the...
  12. Sticky: Well you can always hold the ultimate and, with...

    Well you can always hold the ultimate and, with full CDR, his portal will be back in 7.2 seconds. Even if you don't want to use your whole kit you can hold Threshold and apply a single Spear stack...
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    Always Spear on every mage in every game. ...

    Always Spear on every mage in every game.



    Janus can fully stack spear with Threshold into Portal then hit you with a 429 + 91% scaling Unstable Vortex against your reduced protections.
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    The only Mage who can't apply 2 Spear stacks...

    The only Mage who can't apply 2 Spear stacks before their main damage source is Scylla, and her in-built protection reduction devalues Obsidian Shard anyway. In this meta no one is building enough...
  15. Sticky: I thought that too for a very long time, but it...

    I thought that too for a very long time, but it turns out the bonus scaling from Threshould after hitting them with another ability is actually an individual tick of damage, which will apply a Spear...
  16. Sticky: Towers have 150 physical and magical protections....

    Towers have 150 physical and magical protections. They also only take 85% damage from physicals, while magicals do an extra 20% damage. Backdoor protections half all damage.

    Phoenixes are the same...
  17. Sticky: I really wouldn't recommend Obsidian Shard on...

    I really wouldn't recommend Obsidian Shard on Janus considering you can fully stack Spear with Threshold into Portal before hitting a target with Unstable Vortex.
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    Lots of people do, yes. But if you want more...

    Lots of people do, yes. But if you want more damage you should take out that Titan's Bane for Rage.

    There are a few benefits to the pen build. It's cheaper, gives her bleed more damage, and takes...
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    Build both Qin's and crit if you want to optimise...

    Build both Qin's and crit if you want to optimise Kali's damage output.
  20. Freya has an absolutely terrible laning phase....

    Freya has an absolutely terrible laning phase. You don't pick her for the lane, you pick her for her massive mid-to-late game magical damage.
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    I'd build Asi and get penetration, lifesteal and...

    I'd build Asi and get penetration, lifesteal and attack speed all in one item.
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    I'm not sure why people are suggesting not...

    I'm not sure why people are suggesting not building crit on Bakasura, he even has passive physical power with Butcher Blades to make it more effective.

    Warrior Tabi is often the way to go, not...
  23. Warrior Tabi isn't necessarily better than Ninja...

    Warrior Tabi isn't necessarily better than Ninja Tabi, the reason they're built in the boots -> Soul Eater build is for the early power spike and because Soul Eater has the attack speed Warrior Tabi...
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    Yep, that's her core. Then your last two slots...

    Yep, that's her core. Then your last two slots are gonna be crit, utility or defence.
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    Ichaival is more cost effective but in terms of...

    Ichaival is more cost effective but in terms of taking up an item slot The Executioner is much more powerful. It does de-value her passive but not enough to make it not worth taking what is arguably...
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    Thread is asking for the optimal build, not the...

    Thread is asking for the optimal build, not the "good enough" build, and the optimal build includes at least 1 crit item.
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    Titan's Bane is really not a good use of an item...

    Titan's Bane is really not a good use of an item slot on Kali. The point at which it gives you more DPS than Rage is actually above the physical protection cap.
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    The optimal DPS build, while also sticking to...

    The optimal DPS build, while also sticking to your target is going to be Ninja Tabi, The Executioner, Hastened Fatalis, Qin's Sais, Rage, Deathbringer. Personally, I like to drop the Deathbringer for...
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    I'm pretty sure caster ADC is an oxymoron.

    I'm pretty sure caster ADC is an oxymoron.
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    Depends on if we're talking physical or magical....

    Depends on if we're talking physical or magical. Magical power is a much better stat to build than physical power and Book of Thoth does not need stacks to give you a lot of magical power.
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