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    I'm not trying to undersell it, DR lasts a long...

    I'm not trying to undersell it, DR lasts a long time(15s) but yeah most of the time you are dead after the second hard CC anyway. There are team comps you might end up against where you'll gain...
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    Athena is one of the 16 gods that diminishing...

    Athena is one of the 16 gods that diminishing returns alone won't bring duration down to 0.5s out of those 33 gods Tyr's passive applies to.

    Still, 17 of those 33 gods durations already only last...
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    I didn't say it would make him OP, only easier....

    I didn't say it would make him OP, only easier. If Tyr being easier would make him OP, then you are saying Tyr is already OP when played by someone who can make the most of him. Personally I think...
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    I'm not sure what you are saying here.... If Tyr...

    I'm not sure what you are saying here.... If Tyr builds 10% CCR and say Anubis also builds 10% CCR, and then they both get hit by Morrigan's 1s stun it lasts the same amount of time on both of them....
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    I'll admit that i had forgotten about Fenrir's...

    I'll admit that i had forgotten about Fenrir's stun, however it only lasts 1 second and therefore isn't affected by Tyr's passive.

    Slows aren't affected by Tyr's passive, so no Izanami has no CC...
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    Here is a list of gods Tyr's passive does affect...

    Here is a list of gods Tyr's passive does affect for you and how much he reduces max durations(before CCR and diminishing returns):

    Ah Puch, reduce stun 0.5s
    Amaterasu, reduce stun 1s
    Anhur,...
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    Chaac, Fenrir, Hades, Izanami, and Mercury...

    Chaac, Fenrir, Hades, Izanami, and Mercury definitely are NOT affected because they don't have a CC type affected by Tyr. Tyr's passive doesn't apply to grabs, pulls, silences, disarms, disorients,...
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    It isn't a l2p issue, i know how to play Tyr......

    It isn't a l2p issue, i know how to play Tyr... It is a proposal.

    His passive stacks with CCR.... What does that have to do with his passive literally not doing anything in many games? I know it...
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    What makes it better exactly, it gives less...

    What makes it better exactly, it gives less health now.
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    You are going severely off topic, nobody said...

    You are going severely off topic, nobody said anything about Cabrakan. We are talking about the item Oni Hunter's Garb, Cabrakan passive is very different in that it is an aura applying to team mates...
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    I'm not sure what you mean exactly but maybe i...

    I'm not sure what you mean exactly but maybe i wasn't clear enough.

    Asclepious affects ALL lifesteal. Including lifesteal from items. I tested by building lifesteal on Janus and having a freya...
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    Osiris is the only one with real haste...

    Osiris is the only one with real haste unfortunately, lasts for 6 successful basics.
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    I just tested with my brother, Rod of Asclepious...

    I just tested with my brother, Rod of Asclepious does affect lifesteal. You are welcome.
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    His passive actually isn't that great... In fact...

    His passive actually isn't that great... In fact against some team comps his passive does literally nothing. If there was a lot more CC in the game that lasted longer than 1 second his passive would...
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    Weird, antiheal and increased healing affect each...

    Weird, antiheal and increased healing affect each other additively and antiheal definitely affects lifesteal. You'd think increased healing would also then affect lifesteal.

    100% antiheal means no...
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    That's the idea yeah, not really a point but it...

    That's the idea yeah, not really a point but it is the proposal. Of course the assault and guard stances would have their own separate cooldowns as well.

    If it took the place of his ult he'd need...
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    Incorrect, Osiris has it and Da Ji. Surprisingly,...

    Incorrect, Osiris has it and Da Ji. Surprisingly, Loki doesn't have it on his 3 even though Da Ji does on her 1....
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    Except he wont have 6 abilities and an...

    Except he wont have 6 abilities and an ultimate.... He would STILL only have 4 abilities and an ultimate. Which stance he is in doesn't really count as an ability, it is a stance. To say otherwise is...
  19. His/her issue with Terra isn't even the burst, it...

    His/her issue with Terra isn't even the burst, it is the application time. Apparently s/he doesn't like the fact that Terra can use her ult, pop up her monolith, and if everything lines up just right...
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    I like the one where you pick who your opponent...

    I like the one where you pick who your opponent plays in duel, do more of that one
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    PC Lucky! Does that mean you got the final form...

    Lucky! Does that mean you got the final form achievement as well(penta from Poseidon)
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    Personally i don't remember ever hearing a...

    Personally i don't remember ever hearing a statement from hirez stating that a stance switch ability with no cooldown must take the place of an ultimate. I'd think having 1 less ability and the ult...
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    But increased healing like asclepious passive...

    But increased healing like asclepious passive isn't just for gods that heal team mates... It applies to lifesteal and self healing as well.

    For instance, Chaac may like a rod of asclepious...
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    Also you don't see ADCs building Jotunns? Not...

    Also you don't see ADCs building Jotunns? Not ever? Really? You are seriously telling me you've never seen a Neith with a Jotunn's Wrath?

    Honestly i don't really care what you use personally or...
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    I've never said he can't have an ultimate.... I...

    I've never said he can't have an ultimate.... I really have no idea where that is coming from. All I'm saying is Ullr has more spam as a stance switcher since you specifically said Tyr can spam more...
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    PC I still haven't had one, though to be fair i...

    I still haven't had one, though to be fair i don't play modes with 5 opponents often(and when i do it is pretty common that SOMEBODY afks). I got a nice quadra kill in Siege today though.
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    Hel doesn't get as much for herself, but as...

    Hel doesn't get as much for herself, but as stated she buffs her team with those stats as well. Plus the 20% bonus damage from dark stance more than makes up for the lower amount of power.

    How did...
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    Except you were saying how powerful it is and how...

    Except you were saying how powerful it is and how he can spam abilities more than any other stance switcher.... I'm just providing evidence against that
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    I counted 5 assault versions because i didn't...

    I counted 5 assault versions because i didn't want to leave out the beginning of his 3rd combo as his ult comes off cooldown. The combos is, assault/switch/guard/wait 6 secs/switch/assault/wait 9...
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    9 seconds comes from max CDR... 15 with 40% CDR...

    9 seconds comes from max CDR... 15 with 40% CDR is 9 seconds 14 is 8.4 and 16 is 9.6

    Just because you might not build max CDR on Ullr doesn't mean nobody will. Transcendence, Jotunn's Wrath, Soul...
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