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HiRezKelly
09-05-2014, 05:05 PM
The Winds of Change

Major God Updates



Kukulkan / Ao Kuang

Ao Kuang has been artistically reworked into the Mayan god Kukulkan. Kukulkan has a new model, new animations, a new voice pack, and new special FX. His base kit and ability design has remained unchanged.
Player’s who owned Ao Kuang will continue to own Kukulkan, and all stats and mastery levels gained on Ao Kuang will transfer to Kukulkan.
Players who own the existing Ao Kuang Player Icon will automatically receive the Retro Ao Kuang Player Icon.
The Sacred Dragon skin remains as an option on Kukulcan, and retains Ao Kuang’s retro voice pack. Players who own that skin will continue to own it.
Players who purchased Ao Kuang’s voice pack will be refunded the Gem value.
Players who purchased Ao Kuang’s Typhoon skin will be refunded the Favor value.
Ao Kuang will return...







Arachne

General

Arachne has had her kit redesigned, to better fulfill her role as an Assassin.


Predator (Passive)

Arachne's basic attacks gain 1.5% physical damage for every 5% of a target's missing health.


Venomous Bite

Upon activation, Arachne's next basic attack within 5s does an additional 50/80/110/140/170 +40% of her Physical Power as damage, and infects the target with Venom, dealing an additional 10/20/30/40/50 +10% of her Physical Power as damage every 0.5s for 3s, and healing Arachne the same amount. Cooldown: 15/14/13/12/11s. Cost: 60/65/70/75/80.


Cocoon

Arachne spindles her webbing, and her next 3 successful basic attacks within 6s are executed with 30/40/50/60/70% increased attack speed. If all three attacks hit the same target, that target is wrapped in a Cocoon and stunned for 1/1.1/1.2/1.3/1.4s. Cooldown: 15s. Cost: 70.


Web

Arachne spins a wall of web. Enemies who pass through and break the web are slowed 25% for 4/4.5/5/5.5/6s, revealed to Arachne for the duration, and leave a trail of web behind them that increases Arachne's movement speed and makes her immune to Slows. Breaking the web also spawns 2 Broodling Spiders, which deal 20/30/40/50/60 damage per hit. Arachne can have 2 walls active at a time, and they expire when broken or after 4min. Cooldown: 18s. Cost: 50/55/60/65/70.



Night Crawler

Arachne flips up to her infinite web, hanging upside down above the lane and increasing her movement speed by 40% for 5s. She may leap off the web to deal 150/250/350/450/550 +100% of her Physical Power as damage to all enemies in the target area. Cooldown: 90/85/80/75/70s. Cost: 100.









Odin

General

Odin has had part of his kit redesigned, to help him better fulfill his role as a Warrior. Many of his base stats have been adjusted.


The Allfather (Passive)

If an enemy dies in Odin's Ring of Spears, Odin permanently gains 5 physical power. This can stack up to 10 times.


Lunge

Odin lunges to his target location, doing 140/180/220/260/300 +40% of his physical power to all nearby enemies. Cooldown: 15/14/13/12/11s. Cost: 45/50/55/60/65.


Raven Shout

Odin summons a flock of Ravens that create a shield around him that blocks damage equal to 100/175/250/325/400 +50% of his Physical Power for 4s. When the shield expires it explodes outward, dealing damage to nearby enemies based on how much health it had remaining. If the shield is at full health, it deals an additional 25% bonus damage. The shield will not expire while Odin is using Lunge, and will detonate upon landing from Lunge. Cooldown: 15s. Cost: 50/55/60/65/70.


Gungnir's Might

Odin does a sweeping spear attack that hits twice dealing 35/50/65/80/95 +30% of his physical power as damage and slows enemies 40% for 2/2.2/2.4/2.6/2.8s on the first hit. Cooldown: 10s. Cost: 70.


Ring of Spears

Odin summons a wall of spears that blocks his and enemy movement, but allies may move freely through. It does not block attacks. Enemies inside the ring have their attack speed lowered by 20/30/40/50/60%, and have their healing reduced by 100%. Cooldown: 60s. Cost: 100.






God Skins



Odyssey Item: Pixel Buster Freya
Treasure Chest Exclusive: The King Bacchus
Recolor Arachne
The Team SoloMid Apollo skin will no longer be available for direct sale once this patch is released. Details to be announced soon regarding the TSM Invitational Tournament.



New Voice Packs



Miss Diagnosis Neith
King Bacchus
Pixel Buster Freya
Kukulkan



New Player Icons



Country Flags - Austria, Bulgaria, Croatia, Czech republic, Egypt, England, Hungary, Israel, Japan, Lithuania, Philippines, Romania, Scotland, Serbia, Singapore, Slovenia, Vietnam, and Wales!



New Emotes



The following gods have had emotes added, though not all emotes are available on every god yet.

Agni, Ah Muzen Cab, Anhur, Anubis, Aphrodite, Apollo, Arachne, Ares, Artemis, Athena, Bacchus, Bakasura, Cupid, Fenrir, Freya, Geb, Hebo, Hun Batz, Isis, Janus, Kali, Ne Zha, Neith, Osiris, Ra, Scylla, Serqet, Sobek, Xbalanque, and Ymir!




UI Features / Updates



Smite now features a new ingame HUD.

Top bar is more concise.
Team panels have vertical and horizontal alignment options.
Ability bar has been enhanced.
Stats / Items panel combination option is available.


A new Home Screen has been added, with promoted content, features, news and videos accessible from it. This screen can be minimized.
Diamond loading frames are now available.
If you are rank 5 or above you will now display the Legendary Frame when loading into a match
If you are rank 10 or above you will now display a Diamond Frame when loading into a match
There is a new option along the bottom menu bar to set Loading frames.

Default - Works as it always has, showing the frame for Mastery unlocks.
Hidden - Your loading frame always shows the regular unranked border.
Specific Named Frames - Frames that you own, such as the upcoming E-Sports supporter frame for the World Championship, will be selectable here.


There is a new option in the loading frame tool for users to hide their god stats.
The Georgia Peach intro has a new animation! Classy.
Your default god skin is now properly highlighted after locking in your god.
When you open a treasure chest and have all of the items, there is now feedback explaining what happened, and how awesome you are.



Misc



The New Player Experience (NPE) has been enhanced to include new tutorials for both Arena and Conquest.
The Favor rental system for gods has been enhanced, and now has options for multi-day rentals.
There is a new icon on the emotes tab of the god screen to indicate when emotes are available for a god.
Changing your Player Icon and Equipped icon after you’ve locked in your god is now working properly.
A variety of Diamond skins have had minor visual updates and improvements.
Stats will now appear on loading frames when a gold skin is purchased in the match lobby, versus in the god screen.
The gods lore page will now always reset to the beginning when selecting a new god.
The notification window now displays the user’s equipped player icon.
Minions now immediately despawn when reaching an enemy portal in Arena.
Fixed description on Siege Queue.
Fixed an issue where jumping would sometimes mute another player.
Fixed an issue where an item’s sell price would not update after leaving the fountain.
When using Auto Purchasing and Auto Leveling Skill, if you turn it off mid game, it will still be set to on when you start your next match.
If you manually level a skill while Auto Leveling is on, it will be disabled for the rest of the game.
Notifications no longer pop up during game play.
Your new God rotation is: Isis, Sobek, Chaac, Xbalanque, and Thanatos!



General Gameplay




Made adjustments to better equalize the number of Worshipers gained from playing conquest versus other game modes.
First Win of the Day has been removed from League queues.




Items



Wards / Sentry Wards

Sounds on Ward Skins now only play on deploy and death.
Wards and Sentry Wards can now only be hit by basic attacks, and always take 3 hits to destroy.


Bulwark of Hope

Fixed an issue that caused Bulwark’s passive to trigger on respawn, if purchased while dead.


New Items:

Odysseus's Bow

+40% Attack Speed. Passive: Every basic attack has a 25% chance to trigger chain lighting, damaging the target and up to 4 nearby enemies for 30 damage +50% of your total physical power. This cannot trigger more than once every 1s. Cost: 2300.
This item extends off of Balanced Blade.


Imperial Helmet

+10 Magical Power, +10 Physical Protection. Cost: 750.
This is a new Tier 1 item tree.


Jade Mountain Helm

+20 Magical Power, +20 Physical Protection. Cost: 1250.
This is a new Tier 2 item in the Imperial Helmet tree.


Dynasty Plate Helm

+30 Magical Power, +30 Physical Protection. Passive: You gain 15 Magical Penetration. Cost: 1900.
This is a new Tier 3 item in the Imperial Helmet tree.


Celestial Legion Helm

+40 Magical Damage, +50 Physical Protection. Passive: If you are crit, you cannot be crit again for the next 3s, and gain 40 magical power. Cannot activate more than once every 20s. Cost: 3150.
This is a new Tier 3 item in the Imperial Helmet tree.






Gods - Balance/Updates/Fixes




Ah Muzen Cab

Hive

Hives no longer provide lifesteal to enemies who attack them.



Aphrodite

Kiss

This ability now has a 3s cooldown if it hits a friendly target, rather than no cooldown at all.



Cabrakan

General

Increased base movement speed from 360 to 365.


Refraction Shield

This ability has been changed to gain protections on each hit, rather than remove them. 4/5/6/7/8 per stack, max 5 stacks. Stacks are reset after 8s, or upon use of the active part of this ability.
This ability no longer gives passive protections.
Base damage increased from 90/140/190/240/290 to 90/160/200/260/330.


Tremors

Magical Power scaling increased from 25% to 35%
Fixed an issue that caused the animation for Tremors to end without the ability being canceled.


Tectonic Shift

Walls no longer have health, but instead take 2/3/4/5/6 hits for enemies to destroy. Walls can now only be destroyed by basic attacks.
Base damage increased from 100/200/250/300/350 to 150/250/350/450/550.



Chang’e

Jade Rabbit

Fixed an issue which caused him to be missing from the minimap. Silly Rabbit.



Freya

General

Spent some time at the orthodontist and plastic surgeon.



Guan Yu

Conviction

Reduced cooldown from 14 to 10s.
Reduced mana cost from 60/70/80/90/100 to 60/65/70/75/80.
This ability no longer provides protections.


Taolu Assault

Physical and Magical protection debuff increased from 3/4/5/6/7 to 2/4/6/8/10.
This ability now (or once again) steals physical and magical protections per hit, granting the protections to Guan Yu, at the same rate as the protections debuff.



He Bo

Water Cannon

Base damage reduced from 90/145/200/255/310 to 90/140/190/240/290.


Waterspout

This ability no longer slows when it knocks up enemies.



Hercules

Mitigate Wounds

Damage returned as healing reduced from 30/50/70/90/110% to 30/45/60/75/90%.



Kali

Lash

Damage increased from 30/40/50/60/70 to 35/45/55/65/75 per Blade.


Destruction

Damage increased from 20/25/30/35/40 to 25/30/35/40/45 per tick.



Nu Wa

Mysterious Fog

Base Damage lowered from 50/100/150/200/250 to 50/75/100/125/150.


Fire Shards

No longer deals damage to players who were dead when Nu Wa activated the ability, but respawned before damage was dealt.



Rama

Astral Barrage

Fixed an issue that caused the camera to stay zoomed in after coming down from the sky.



Scylla

General

Fixed an issue where her dogs were missing from her lobby animations.



Sun Wukong

Somersault Cloud

Fixed an issue which caused jumping from your cloud onto an enemy to activate the CC protections of Magi’s Blessing.

Foxnos
09-05-2014, 05:06 PM
Hyped!!!!!!!!!!!

Smussy
09-05-2014, 05:06 PM
Great patch! Can't wait to test it out on the test servers.

LostScarf
09-05-2014, 05:14 PM
Odin and Arachne reworks/ Kukulkan the Ao Kuang remake

------Odin
He is 50% reworked and 50% the same. They've made him more bursty and lowered his mana cost so he is able to burst in and clear lanes pretty well. The increased slow to his spin strike will make his very strong at punishing gods who lack escape. His ultimate is a mixed bag, he loses CC which gives him a chance of being useless, but since allies can attack through his walls, he is still capable of getting kills for his team, and just great now that he can't trap them. His passive I don't know, if you fail to get kills it'll be a bit useless, luckily teammate kills in ult will help. Jodin was a scary force, this one looks scarier.

-----Arachne
The jungle tactician is gone and has been reincarnated into a much more suicidal spider. You can see in her kit that they reimagined it to feel like parts of the old kit are in there. Your 1 is meant to feel like her poison and drain life, her 2 is meant to feel like her cocoon, her 3 is meant to feel like her web and spiderlings, and lastly is her ultimate that is completely new. She feels a bit like Loki in a way; two inhand buffs, a slow, a stun, and an ultimate that can be used to escape or commit to finishing off an escaping god that will likely get you killed after. Difference is Loki has Vanish to get away, She has I guess her wall to slow things down. That passive is going to make her scary to low HP gods though.
Something interesting though is that she can do something about teamfights now, that web of hers summons spiders to attack enemies and slow them down, that is very useful.

-----Kukulan
Jebus he looks amazing, just wow at their work on him. Happy to know that Sacred Dragon going over to Kukulkan and he's keeping the old Ao Kuang Voice. No changes to his Kit, but new names and graphics.

---Skins
Bacchus Elvis is scary as balls, too bad he's chest only.

Pixel Buster Freya: Both weird and amazing looking at the same time. Oh my god, this is an instant buy, the level up alone is good enough reason to get it. Yep instant buy. A....little worried about another lawsuit.

---Voice Pack
Ms. Diagnosis; wow she sounds borderline Wisconsin.

---Loading Frames
The option to have different frames is cool; being able to hide stats...okay...

---Rentals
More rental options for Gods is great, lets you try them out for a while and see if you want them or not.

---General Gameplay
Thankfully they've removed First win of the day from ranked, people want to play well there and it brought in casuals who did ruin the game for them.

Wards now only need 3 basic attacks to die and abilities don't hurt them, thankful for this because it is usually the support who has to deal with them and they could take forever.

--------New Items (5 new items) Not necessarily will be game yet, but will be in PTS.
Odysseus's Bow: This will be a great clearing item and softening in team fights.
Celestial Legion Helm: Anti Crit item, people have wanted an item like this for a long time. A good late game item. This will certainly hurt the heck out of Assassins and Hunters, especially someone like Art. Basically this is supposed to be mage version of magi's blessing, a way to deal with crits instead of CC. I have no idea how effective this will be. With Crit a hunter can kill people in under 3s, so maybe this will hurt them a lot or not make a difference since it is only 1 crit.

-----Gods
Aphro:
Kiss nerfed, she now has a 3s CD when kissing an ally instead of no CD. It slows her down a bit, it is a nerf.

Cabrakan:
Buffed; Cabrakan is now faster which he should be because of how melee aggressive that kit is. His shield now gains protections per hit, this makes a lot more sense and it does more damage. Rewarding Cabrakan for being aggressive and getting hurt, which it should. Tremors getting more damage. His ult walls take a while to be destroyed as only basic attacks can hurt them and his ult does more damage. Cabrakan is definitely a lot more tanky and aggressive now, this should make him more viable. He'll be a bursty guardian for sure, he should definitely see stronger play.

Guan Yu:
Changed; he no longer provides protections with his heal, which were huge. But he now steals protections again with Talou Assault. So another move around of his abilities. It's kinda weird this wasn't what they did a long time ago.

He Bo:
Nerfed: Water cannon damage nerfed and Waterspout no longer slows. He Bo had very strong kiting ability and this does hurt him a bit.

Hercules:
Nerfed; Hercules no longer heals more damage than he takes. That is HUGE, Hercules could give people a ton of trouble and walk it off. This will hurt him a bit and we'll see what this does to him.

Kali:
Buffed; her 2 and ult has more damage, will be a bit helpful.

Nu Wa:
Nerfed; Fog does less damage, it did a nice amount of damage, but it wasn't the big part of what she does. It hurts a little, but not a lot.
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Summary: The art team is amazing as ever, just amazing. Very interested in seeing what I think of Cabrakan now, his kit looks better for his aggressive style. The god changes should be fine, it'll help and hurt a little. Odin's rework should make him deadlier, but also easier to kill. Jodin is gonna be scary. I'll miss the old Arachne, but new Arachne should be fun to try out. She's a bit suicidal with her kit, but she should be scary as hell because of it. Kukulan looks cool, just wow. Then there's Pixel Buster Freya, instant buy. Just great job to the art department and I'll see what I think of the reworks soon enough. Overall very optimistic.

We'll have a discussion about the patch for an hour or so at www.twitch.tv/ScarfPlays

LainEdel
09-05-2014, 05:14 PM
Why you do this to my He Bo... I don't care about damage of 1 but taking away that slow... And that 3100 helm is too powerful.
Everything else seems ok.

Vanderloo
09-05-2014, 05:18 PM
I don't see anything about the serqet gold skin on the patch notes (maybe i'm blind). Also, i know they only showed the gold skin for her, but are we also getting legen/diamond as well?

DonaldX
09-05-2014, 05:21 PM
Pure awesome! Absolutely loved the way kukulkan and pixel freya looked.

RippleApple
09-05-2014, 05:27 PM
Why you do this to my He Bo... I don't care about damage of 1 but taking away that slow... And that 3100 helm is too powerful.
Everything else seems ok.

He Bo was too strong and this is a tiny nerf that basically requires you to either use the carpet aggressively to slow them like before or defensively to escape. You have to choose to go in, or maintain some form of safety. That's pretty standard for most gods and the slow gave too much for not enough drawbacks (that is, no drawbacks).

The helm is expensive to offset its usefulness. It's more expensive than quin's sais, which people think are too expensive now.

I predict a minor nerf to the helm.

_______

Thank you for changing Arachne, HiRez. You're amazing. And Odin looks incredible, and a counter to Hercules, whose healing will be nuked. It makes it harder for Hercules to pull off his combo as if he does, Odin can simply ult and trap him in a situation where he's surrounded by several angry hands of death with no way of healing back the damage he takes.

GrimToadstool
09-05-2014, 05:28 PM
We've seen KKK's - wait that's a terrible abbreviation for Kukulkan - passive to be shown on screen, presumably how much power is gained out of mana, which is nice to see. Could we also get the icon in the edge of the screen of the book of thoth do the same?

FlareX
09-05-2014, 05:29 PM
Well, here's a little bit of feedback on Freya's new face:

While it looks infinitely better than her old, horsey face, I still humbly suggest that you shrink her eyes and lips a tiny bit, then she would be perfect. Or at least tone down her lipstick a little. Overall, I'd say it's good but could use a tiny bit of refining, no?

Either way, Pixel Buster is still awesome and I hope I somehow find enough gems to get it before the Odyssey ends...

FeistyDeity
09-05-2014, 05:30 PM
We've seen KKK's - wait that's a terrible abbreviation for Kukulkan - passive to be shown on screen, presumably how much power is gained out of mana, which is nice to see. Could we also get the icon in the edge of the screen of the book of thoth do the same?

Yeah I really liked that. I'd love to see the same for Vanamnam and Runeforged Hammer tbh. :D

RippleApple
09-05-2014, 05:33 PM
Also, shouldn't this thread be stickied? Or is that only after it goes live?

Yendil
09-05-2014, 06:35 PM
I actually wonder if Hi-rez wants Nu Wa to be the "new old Arachne " , Nerfing her 4 times in a row....

FeistyDeity
09-05-2014, 07:18 PM
I actually wonder if Hi-rez wants Nu Wa to be the "new old Arachne " , Nerfing her 4 times in a row....

She WAS still being pretty much perma-banned in competitive play. And the nerf was on her least dangerous ability. She will still be more than viable.

Yendil
09-05-2014, 07:26 PM
She WAS still being pretty much perma-banned in competitive play. And the nerf was on her least dangerous ability. She will still be more than viable.
I'm not saying she won't be viable, but i'm a bit upset about seeing Nu wa getting nerf 4 times in a row, each time on her early games stages while she already have a sh***y one ... and to see that some gods who need to be hardly nerf IMO, are just ignored ( i'm looking at you merc ! ) :(

TheValdomero
09-05-2014, 07:35 PM
Please!!!! No more nerf to nu wa!!! The focus of her minons sucks!

FeistyDeity
09-05-2014, 07:40 PM
I'm not saying she won't be viable, but i'm a bit upset about seeing Nu wa getting nerf 4 times in a row, each time on her early games stages while she already have a sh***y one ... and to see that some gods who need to be hardly nerf IMO, are just ignored ( i'm looking at you merc ! ) :(

Merc got nerfed through the anti-crit item. It's wise of them to see how influential that item will prove to be before nerfing crit-reliant characters.

Yendil
09-05-2014, 07:59 PM
Merc got nerfed through the anti-crit item. It's wise of them to see how influential that item will prove to be before nerfing crit-reliant characters.

I'm not sure that one crit item will save anyone from merc since he can stil melt you down in few hits not even taking care of if you're squishy or a tank, crits aren't what makes him way too powerful imo

FeistyDeity
09-05-2014, 08:14 PM
I'm not sure that one crit item will save anyone from merc since he can stil melt you down in few hits not even taking care of if you're squishy or a tank, crits aren't what makes him way too powerful imo

He will still be able to kill you, but the speed at which he can do it will be significantly lower. And having to stick around for longer in teamfights really hurts Merc.

EDIT: That being said, I'm not convinced it'll have that much of an impact myself. Still, it makes sense they're not nerfing characters that build crit right this patch.

Yendil
09-05-2014, 08:35 PM
He will still be able to kill you, but the speed at which he can do it will be significantly lower. And having to stick around for longer in teamfights really hurts Merc.

EDIT: That being said, I'm not convinced it'll have that much of an impact myself. Still, it makes sense they're not nerfing characters that build crit right this patch.

Yeah, maybe, maybe. Anyway crits themselves are an issue looking at how powerful they are in the game ... But i guess it's alot of work to tune this down without breaking all of the physical gods viability ... Anyway it's a "good " patch overall even if i think Arachne will have to be tuned down before the patch goes live x) Especially cause she seems to be a "mercury like " god , with less mobility but an inner sustain and burst damage which can be considered a bit .... too much on paper

OnlyDemiGod
09-05-2014, 08:58 PM
Hoping for an India Flag soon!

regmckie
09-05-2014, 09:09 PM
Kukulkan looks fantastic! He is definitely one of my more favorite gods in terms of design. I'm still going to have to get used to Ao Kuang not being in the game (I know it's just a new skin, voice, etc, but still...).

Vogita
09-05-2014, 10:13 PM
enough with the nerfs we dont want another warrior purge

RippleApple
09-05-2014, 11:05 PM
enough with the nerfs we dont want another warrior purge

Arachne: Buffed.
Odin: Buffed.
AMC: Buffed/Bugfixed.
Aphrodite: Nerfed.
Cabrakan: Buffed.
Guan Yu: Buffed.
He Bo: Nerfed.
Hercules: Nerfed.
Kali: Buffed.
Nu Wa: Nerfed.
Sun Wukong: Nerfed/Bugfixed.

I'd say this patch buffed more gods than it nerfed, and the ones it nerfed really needed a nerf, and the ones it buffed really needed a buff. Except for the bugfixes, not really counting those.

Vogita
09-05-2014, 11:12 PM
we don't want another warrior purge notice how hercules and wukong was nerfed. Guan Yu only got a compensation buff for the one he lost on his 1 and the only warrior that was buffed was Odin. While they are buffing warriors they are also nerfing ones as well. Wukong needs to be buffed again not nerfed. So far the only warriors that are still good are Chaac, Vamana, Hercules if the heal reduction isn't too much and now Odin. Only 4 good warriors.

RippleApple
09-06-2014, 12:10 AM
we don't want another warrior purge notice how hercules and wukong was nerfed. Guan Yu only got a compensation buff for the one he lost on his 1 and the only warrior that was buffed was Odin. While they are buffing warriors they are also nerfing ones as well. Wukong needs to be buffed again not nerfed. So far the only warriors that are still good are Chaac, Vamana, Hercules if the heal reduction isn't too much and now Odin. Only 4 good warriors.

It's not a nerf, it's a bugfix. Hercules was nerfed, and you get credit for that assertion, but Sun Wukong was only nerfed because his ult wasn't supposed to do that any more, since it isn't a form of crowd-control any more. That's why I didn't count it.

Not counting the bugfix, the category nerfed directly the most here are... mages. Not warriors. And indirectly, assassins, through a new item that limits their burst capabilities in the late-game.

Furthermore, as for viable warriors, Tyr still hits like a truck, Osiris is still used a lot as a better version of bakasura, and Sun Wukong's mana usage has decreased since the last patch, making him nearly just as viable as the others. A little more damage and he'll be viable as well.

OdinBloodbane
09-06-2014, 12:28 AM
When does this patch go live?

DarkColton
09-06-2014, 12:32 AM
Again with the Nu Wa nerf? Can't you people just be happy. Her fog didn't even hurt that much. She's been nerfed enough, next thing you know her ult is gonna do a max of 300 damage because "it's too op". Fix her Minions AI, they literally make blondes look like Albert Einstein. You called the "New" Nu Wa a pusher, and you just took away one of her main lane clears. Please Hi Rez. Pay attention to your players.

ArtMatters
09-06-2014, 12:34 AM
I think the crit immunity duration may be a bit too long when a mages' only counter is getting killed fast. (Assassins/Hunters) Albeit the base stats on the item aren't amazing, a temporary 'Geb' passive may be more towards the purpose of the item.

Yoza145
09-06-2014, 12:49 AM
Cool, can't wait for this patch!
Though kind of was hoping to read something about Nu Wa's clay soldiers prioritizing minions over gods, even when they are dead in front of me.
But I really can't wait for this patch, really want to see how everything turns out.
It is going to be good, I bet. Cause it sounds good so far.

XraiderX863
09-06-2014, 01:36 AM
RIP all auto attack assassins when facing glass canon mages :-/

ajwalker65
09-06-2014, 03:34 AM
No one thinks having a premium skin for a god who has NO premium skins be a Treasure Chest items is not a good idea? :mad:

Well, I do. Why put a new premium skins for a god who had none, as a TC exclusive?

HiRez is not getting my money that I would gladly spend on the new Bacchus skin if it wasn't in those ridiculous treasure chests.

And how is the Odin rework a "good thing"? The rework made him even more irrelevant than he's been since the nerf :p

Arachne looks cool though.

RippleApple
09-06-2014, 04:21 AM
And how is the Odin rework a "good thing"? The rework made him even more irrelevant than he's been since the nerf :p

If you had some context for his new shield skill you might understand. It eats up a lot of mana, but he can easily clear the wave at a relatively low level with only a couple items in a few seconds. He's bursty now, and his ult is significantly improved for teamfights while being nerfed for boxing to a small degree. It's overall a good thing.

GoIdschuss
09-06-2014, 05:20 AM
Finally they removed the toxic "Go-through-everything" Blitzcrank grab from arachne and added overall strenghts to her, rather than relying on one skill.
Sadly, still no chronos or Polynomicon buffs ;(

PapaRodin
09-06-2014, 05:29 AM
I am suprised that there is so little Cabrakan talk in here. The buff to his 3 is huge and his Ultimate changed from being useless to very potent in terms of damage, durability and synergy with his kit.

LainEdel
09-06-2014, 05:46 AM
Finally they removed the toxic "Go-through-everything" Blitzcrank grab from arachne and added overall strenghts to her, rather than relying on one skill.
Sadly, still no chronos or Polynomicon buffs ;(

Arachne will be nerfed, mark my words. Obviously I didn't play her but from what I've seen in patch talk or whatever she's too powerful now.

AlexError
09-06-2014, 06:19 AM
Odysseus's Bow
+40% Attack Speed. Passive: Every basic attack has a 25% chance to trigger chain lighting, damaging the target and up to 4 nearby enemies for 30 damage +50% of your total physical power. This cannot trigger more than once every 1s. Cost: 2300.
This item is essentially Smite's version of DotA2's Mjollnir. It's almost exactly the same, and it is this that makes me believe that the item will not be built. Mjollnir is primarily built for pushing power, and clearing waves/illusions, which isn't a priority for Smite gameplay. Your abilities clear waves super quickly; your late game basic attack damage clears waves super quickly.

It falls into the Golden Bow category, of clones of items from other MOBAs, which don't work in Smite. Golden Bow is bought on Mercury, however, but I don't see how Odysseus' Bow would even be a niche on him. He already almost caps his attack speed with his steroid, and a 'chance' to proc a bit of lightning damage isn't good enough.

It depends on the range of the lightning, and how far it travels. Perhaps it might be useful for physical ability users, like Hun Batz, to transition into a more auto attacking role, if the range of lightning was large. The lightning isn't going to do much damage, regardless, 30 damage + 50% scaling is weak, especially for physical users, who don't have as much power as mages.

For hunters, so much attack speed isn't required, or Fatalis would be more sought after. Many hunters have attack speed steroids anyway, aside from Neith, Anhur, Xbalanque.

It builds from the physical 'balanced blade', so you can't get it on Ymir and go facepunching.


Dynasty Plate Helm
+30 Magical Power, +30 Physical Protection. Passive: You gain 15 Magical Penetration. Cost: 1900.
At first glance, it's a fair item, it reminds me of the very first version of the Wall of Absolution, which reduced magical protections of people basic attacking you, but with magical power, and penetration instead. It's another penetration item for mages, which is cheap.

Spear of the Magus is still 100% better than this item if you're looking for damage - providing 40 power, 15 penetration as well as 20 flat reduction and 20% reduction. The Dynasty Plate Helm seems like a really underwhelming item; I do not think it will be bought, when the Spear of the Magus exists, giving more damage. 30 physical protection isn't good enough.


Celestial Legion Helm
+40 Magical Damage, +50 Physical Protection. Passive: If you are crit, you cannot be crit again for the next 3s, and gain 40 magical power. Cannot activate more than once every 20s. Cost: 3150.
This is a pretty awesome item. It's what mages have been wanting since game release - a way to stop getting bursted by hunters, who burst harder than the mages themselves. It may be overpowered, since the stats are incredibly high; 80 potential magical power, with 50 physical protection, and crit immunity.

Two downsides to note - it only happens once every 20 seconds, and it costs 3150 gold to purchase. That is a lot of gold - it's a late game item, definitely.

LainEdel
09-06-2014, 07:40 AM
This is a pretty awesome item. It's what mages have been wanting since game release - a way to stop getting bursted by hunters, who burst harder than the mages themselves. It may be overpowered, since the stats are incredibly high; 80 potential magical power, with 50 physical protection, and crit immunity.

It should happen once in 60 seconds.

Noeyn
09-06-2014, 11:13 AM
There will not be Hel skin in odessey?

W1cK3DnW1LD
09-06-2014, 12:29 PM
All's good but we need an "India" player icon.
How can you not include India when this game has so much of Hinduism in it.
Please Hi-Rez!!

Poldd
09-06-2014, 01:19 PM
What is going to happen to my Golden Ao skin?

JudgeArcadia
09-06-2014, 01:24 PM
SO really Duke's Dear Arachne's play style remains all around the same, just has a function in the team outside of every 30 seconds try and nab someone.

I am ok with this, but she's no longer the undisputed queen of the Jungle... :(

Edit: I know its been awhile since I logged on to the forums here, but da fuq is this Junior Member crap!? I am insulted Hi Rez. INSULTED!

LainEdel
09-06-2014, 01:30 PM
SO really Duke's Dear Arachne's play style remains all around the same, just has a function in the team outside of every 30 seconds try and nab someone.

I am ok with this, but she's no longer the undisputed queen of the Jungle... :(

Edit: I know its been awhile since I logged on to the forums here, but da fuq is this Junior Member crap!? I am insulted Hi Rez. INSULTED!

You have 1 post.


What is going to happen to my Golden Ao skin?

You will get golden Kulkulkan skin.

TZEVE
09-06-2014, 01:37 PM
Still nothing for zeus.It seems that smoking weed from a bazooka continues in hirez

RippleApple
09-06-2014, 03:28 PM
It depends on the range of the lightning, and how far it travels. Perhaps it might be useful for physical ability users, like Hun Batz, to transition into a more auto attacking role, if the range of lightning was large. The lightning isn't going to do much damage, regardless, 30 damage + 50% scaling is weak, especially for physical users, who don't have as much power as mages.

Looks like a pubstomping/noob item for getting used to hitting autoattacks so you can hit the wave instead, or to punish those who stand in the wave while clearing it.


Spear of the Magus is still 100% better than this item if you're looking for damage - providing 40 power, 15 penetration as well as 20 flat reduction and 20% reduction. The Dynasty Plate Helm seems like a really underwhelming item; I do not think it will be bought, when the Spear of the Magus exists, giving more damage. 30 physical protection isn't good enough.

It's a decent starting item for solo lane if you're laning against a warrior and not confident you can outpush them. It's cheap, gives you penetration, gives you protection, and gives you a little bit of power.


This is a pretty awesome item. It's what mages have been wanting since game release - a way to stop getting bursted by hunters, who burst harder than the mages themselves. It may be overpowered, since the stats are incredibly high; 80 potential magical power, with 50 physical protection, and crit immunity.

Two downsides to note - it only happens once every 20 seconds, and it costs 3150 gold to purchase. That is a lot of gold - it's a late game item, definitely.

On stream they introduced it somewhat as an alternative to rod of tahuti due to the cost, but I don't see it as in the same tier as rod of tahuti for most gods. Just the close-range ability ones like Zhong Kui.


You have 1 post.

Maybe they were here before the forums got reset.

Vogita
09-06-2014, 05:21 PM
thank you for buffing cabrakan now people will use him more.

SinDreadElla
09-06-2014, 05:46 PM
I don't know much about Kukulkan's story but someone on his reveal's video said:

As ao kuang, the ult had a sense in the lore, cuz there were 4 dragons, but as kukulkan... I thought he is the only one
And that's true. Before the remade I thought they might visually change his ult into something like summoning a lightning beam like Ra's celestial beam that passes forward.

PapaRodin
09-06-2014, 06:11 PM
The buff to Cabrakans Ultimate made him much better. Not even the damage part, but that the boulders don't die as easily as on life is pure gold.

I have only seen Odysseus Bow procced once on me today. I was Cabracan and it tickled me for a whooping 53 damage. Not remembering what that neith was wearing outside of that, but that really isn't much. Then again, I had the new helmed and mail, so.......

StabsMcNasty
09-06-2014, 09:42 PM
Please don't change arachne. Her old kit made her unique and now she is the basic assassin and now is so much like loki

RippleApple
09-06-2014, 11:56 PM
Unique doesn't mean good.

Apocalypso
09-07-2014, 05:26 AM
Let's see. Loving Kukulkan however I don't like the fact that the sacred dragon skin is staying the same. In my eyes Kukulkan stays Ao with that skin. Arachnes Toxic Caress recolor is her default skin at the moment. Hope the neon light green looks as awsome in game as on her card. Loving the change to odins ult as well. I wonder how many friendly players have died because of that ult. Freyas face still needs a little rework. Pixel Buster Freya. Thanx for the memories. Enough said.

Nejcn
09-07-2014, 08:34 AM
Im confused, my Ao Kuang looks same as before, do i need to do anything special to get patch?
Kinda newbie

Nigadry
09-07-2014, 08:36 AM
Im soo annoyed of these nu wa nerfs...why rework her to get nerfed every single patch after the rework. just revert her this is ridiculous. Hi Rez wanted her a burst mage(for some strange reason >.>) then make her sooo bursty they are forced to nerf everything she can do! ffs HiRez

KittyMeowz135
09-07-2014, 11:46 AM
Why the nerf to Aphrodite Kiss? It's already hard enough to land it on the right god when your team is grouped up in a fight, this will just make kissing the wrong ally even worse because we can't re-kiss to the correct god right away and most likely will result in a death of a teammate. Unless I'm just bad at aiming, it's hard to kiss the right teammate sometimes when they're grouped up, especially when in tight areas like the jungle (and most definitely when your allies are pretty much right on top of each other) and this just penalizes you further for something that you might not have been able to control.

Inuyama
09-07-2014, 12:22 PM
so do i get a refund for the favor i spet on my golden ao khaung skin? or do i get a golden skin for the new guy?

OldKaostic
09-07-2014, 12:23 PM
so do i get a refund for the favor i spet on my golden ao khaung skin? or do i get a golden skin for the new guy?

I believe you get a golden Kukulkan skin.

Inuyama
09-07-2014, 12:25 PM
I believe you get a golden Kukulkan skin.

Thank you for such a quick response ^^

NunoPitbull
09-07-2014, 02:55 PM
When does this patch comes out?

LainEdel
09-07-2014, 03:09 PM
Im confused, my Ao Kuang looks same as before, do i need to do anything special to get patch?
Kinda newbie


When does this patch comes out?

It's Tuesday.

NunoPitbull
09-07-2014, 03:15 PM
Thank you:)

RippleApple
09-07-2014, 03:21 PM
Why the nerf to Aphrodite Kiss? It's already hard enough to land it on the right god when your team is grouped up in a fight, this will just make kissing the wrong ally even worse because we can't re-kiss to the correct god right away and most likely will result in a death of a teammate. Unless I'm just bad at aiming, it's hard to kiss the right teammate sometimes when they're grouped up, especially when in tight areas like the jungle (and most definitely when your allies are pretty much right on top of each other) and this just penalizes you further for something that you might not have been able to control.

Maybe they'll improve the targeting for it.

We can dream.

DarkColton
09-07-2014, 04:52 PM
The Winds of Change

Major God Updates



Kukulkan / Ao Kuang
Players who own the existing Ao Kuang Player Icon will automatically receive the Retro Ao Kuang Player Icon.
The Sacred Dragon skin remains as an option on Kukulcan, and retains Ao Kuang’s retro voice pack. Players who own that skin will continue to own it.
Players who purchased Ao Kuang’s voice pack will be refunded the Gem value.
Players who purchased Ao Kuang’s Typhoon skin will be refunded the Favor value.
Ao Kuang will return...





*Start Rant*
Well I find this to be completely BS! Ao Kuang players get his old Voice Pack, Get the retro Icon, get the skin refunded in favor AND voice pack refunded in gems?! What BS is this?! You didn't give us this option with Nu Wa! You just threw her in our faces and said "here you go! After all the har work you put into of playing Nu Wa we're gonna screw with her kit and skin!" Give us the old Nu Wa Voice Pack, Give us our free retro card or refund what we bought on her before!! You've nerfed her 4 times in a row already, we're getting sick and tired of you trashing good gods and keeping the broken ones broken.
*End Rant*

KittyMeowz135
09-07-2014, 05:20 PM
*Start Rant*
Well I find this to be completely BS! Ao Kuang players get his old Voice Pack, Get the retro Icon, get the skin refunded in favor AND voice pack refunded in gems?! What BS is this?! You didn't give us this option with Nu Wa! You just threw her in our faces and said "here you go! After all the har work you put into of playing Nu Wa we're gonna screw with her kit and skin!" Give us the old Nu Wa Voice Pack, Give us our free retro card or refund what we bought on her before!! You've nerfed her 4 times in a row already, we're getting sick and tired of you trashing good gods and keeping the broken ones broken.
*End Rant*

The Chinese goddess Nu Wa was reworked but is still the Chinese goddess Nu Wa. The Chinese god Ao Kuang is being replaced by the Mayan god Kukulkan. You didn't get that for Nu Wa because it's still the same goddess, just with a reskin and new abilities... but she IS still Nu Wa. Kukulkan is NOT Ao Kuang but Ao is being replaced by Kukulkan, so yes everything you bought that belonged to Ao will be moved to Kukulkan. Kukulkan is a new god replacing an old one, Nu Wa is not a new god.

cheeselordlolz
09-07-2014, 06:40 PM
I don't think the odyssey will end anytime soon... There is still all the other places. ( mayan, chinese, norse, egyptian,, greek.)I only bought the odyssey coin cause it was cheap :P

I have Nu Wa too. But there Is still a Nu Wa.

DarkColton
09-07-2014, 08:20 PM
The Chinese goddess Nu Wa was reworked but is still the Chinese goddess Nu Wa. The Chinese god Ao Kuang is being replaced by the Mayan god Kukulkan. You didn't get that for Nu Wa because it's still the same goddess, just with a reskin and new abilities... but she IS still Nu Wa. Kukulkan is NOT Ao Kuang but Ao is being replaced by Kukulkan, so yes everything you bought that belonged to Ao will be moved to Kukulkan. Kukulkan is a new god replacing an old one, Nu Wa is not a new god.

KuKulKan may be the new god but still. Why give Ao Kuang players everything? Even Ao Kuang's Retro Icon? Ao Kuang is getting put back into the game sometime. So basicaly Ao Kuang players just got a free Icon, Voice Pack, and Skin or they get it refunded. Do you know how many people HATE Nu Wa's new Voice Pack? It's honestly one of the worst. It's not funny, strong, independent sounding, or sexy anymore. I miss when she used to say "Like a Boss" now it's " My wisdom is unmatched!" who gives a damn about your wisdom. If we wanted smarts, we'd play the Russian Athena.

KittyMeowz135
09-07-2014, 08:41 PM
KuKulKan may be the new god but still. Why give Ao Kuang players everything? Even Ao Kuang's Retro Icon? Ao Kuang is getting put back into the game sometime. So basicaly Ao Kuang players just got a free Icon, Voice Pack, and Skin or they get it refunded. Do you know how many people HATE Nu Wa's new Voice Pack? It's honestly one of the worst. It's not funny, strong, independent sounding, or sexy anymore. I miss when she used to say "Like a Boss" now it's " My wisdom is unmatched!" who gives a damn about your wisdom. If we wanted smarts, we'd play the Russian Athena.

They aren't getting anything for free. They get to keep the Ao Kuang icon if they have already purchased it. Taking it away from they wouldn't make sense. They still have to purchace the Kukulkan icon if they want it. They get the refund on the voice pack and skin because Ao Kuang is being removed for some time, and it wouldn't be fair to take that away from them for the duration and they might not like Kukulkan's voice pack or skin so the cost is being refunded. They didn't do that for Nu Wa because she wasn't a new god replacing an old one, she was just reworked but was still Nu Wa so you kept your Nu Wa stuff.

DeadlyBlack
09-07-2014, 10:12 PM
They need to add the Albanian/Kosovo flag.

TheFade
09-07-2014, 10:29 PM
They aren't getting anything for free. They get to keep the Ao Kuang icon if they have already purchased it. Taking it away from they wouldn't make sense. They still have to purchace the Kukulkan icon if they want it. They get the refund on the voice pack and skin because Ao Kuang is being removed for some time, and it wouldn't be fair to take that away from them for the duration and they might not like Kukulkan's voice pack or skin so the cost is being refunded. They didn't do that for Nu Wa because she wasn't a new god replacing an old one, she was just reworked but was still Nu Wa so you kept your Nu Wa stuff.

No, they aren't getting free stuff. They're getting to keep what they already had and get a refund on it as well. Nu Wa is mechanically, visually, and audibly no longer in the game. She looks different, sounds different, and plays different. Players who already purchased Nu Wa got nothing. Ao Kuang is mechanically, visually, and audibly still in the game. He has a different name. Players who already purchased Ao Kuang get a refund of everything they paid.

KittyMeowz135
09-07-2014, 10:47 PM
No, they aren't getting free stuff. They're getting to keep what they already had and get a refund on it as well. Nu Wa is mechanically, visually, and audibly no longer in the game. She looks different, sounds different, and plays different. Players who already purchased Nu Wa got nothing. Ao Kuang is mechanically, visually, and audibly still in the game. He has a different name. Players who already purchased Ao Kuang get a refund of everything they paid.

Nu Wa changed but she's still Nu Wa. She is NOT a new god. Kukulkan is replacing Ao Kuang by taking his abilities, but he IS a new god taking Ao's place while Ao gets a rework. Kukulkan = New god REPLACING and old god. Nu Wa = Rework but still Nu Wa, NOT a new god, not replacing another god. Because Kukulkan is REPLACING Ao Kuang, he get's some of his stuff and a refund for some of his stuff. Nothing is free. Simple as that.

SinDreadElla
09-07-2014, 11:47 PM
Uh... just a heads up to let you guys know about my experience with the... icons.

Before the Nu Wa redesign and Zeus remodel patch, I actually bought their old icons (with favor of course) on purpose, seeing what happened with the gods before like Bastet or Agni's old icons being turned into a gem thing.

Guess what happened though? They completely switched the bought favor icons into the new icons regardless and made the old ones the 100 gem ones.
I'm not complaining though since I don't really use those icons. It was simply for collection.
Oh well let's hope they keep their promises this time.

SnakeEye073
09-08-2014, 08:48 AM
Cool patch Good for odin and arachne to be a little better. I've seen only some little posts by the players who constantly complain over odin and arachne. Also there are new items so new combinated builds. Plus an anti crit armor is really good for warriors and guardians. I dont think that hunters and assassins are gonna use them.


Anyway very good patch and i cant wait for the new ao
Plus still waiting for serqet golden

IrishPotato
09-08-2014, 10:33 AM
So much hype for this patch I love it

MoFriedChickens
09-08-2014, 10:35 AM
First Impressions:

Kukulkan:

I think the smite community has had enough Mayan gods for the time being.

Bacchus Skin:

While it looks really cool being a drunk Elvis, In my opinion there are other gods that could use more skins.

Arachne:

Her passive makes more sense now as a low mobility assassin. The wall of web sounds pretty cool, same with the ultimate.

Odin:

I saw a demo video of the new ring of spears, its nice now that allies can walk through the ring of spears, and that the passive works with allies killing enemies inside the ring of spears. What I think needs more clarification is if Odin himself will be able to lunge out of the ring of spears, or if he also can pass through the cage safely. I don't like the change of his Shout to Raven's Shout. As we all know, Odin's attack range is very limited and while Gungnir's Might slows your opponent, the slow is not efficient enough to keep your opponents from kiting you around your own cage. Hopefully with allies being able to enter/exit the cage freely we will see adjustments in game-play to overcome this.

ITEMS:

Wards:

Was it that big an issue having wards up? I'm really not big on conquest so I wouldn't know about that type of game-play but it seems like 3 hits to a ward just makes it a one time snitch to enemy player locations. And with the costs of 135 gold per sentry ward, that's one expensive one time snitch.

New Items:

Celestial Legion Helm:

This, in my opinion, is a bad item. While it does get insane Hunter Critical Hits under control, it ensures the death of late game assassin's like Loki.

More on this post after I return from college classes.

NiceRageBro
09-08-2014, 12:25 PM
The new way to kill wards was implemented because supports doing counterwards couldn't easily kill wards whereas damage built players could do it with 1 spell or basic attack.

Now it's just basic attacks only and 3 is required no matter how powerful your basics are. So attack speed built players will have a slight edge in ward killing but it won't be a big pain in the ass to kill them as a support anymore.

Zoldrage
09-08-2014, 12:32 PM
aaaaaand no hades fixes...............

MoFriedChickens
09-08-2014, 01:08 PM
First Impressions Continued:

Balances/Updates/Fixes:

Aphrodite: The stun/heal capability of this power was pretty ridiculous and I'm glad to see this change to Kiss.

Cabrakan: I'm not too sure about the change on the walls of his ultimate only being able to be destroyed by basic attacks. It does make it a deathtrap for Mages and low attack speed builds, but I'd rather see his walls go up faster, because in my experience he's able to say "There's no way out!" and then the walls come up, which seems like a rather long warning time for enemy players to get out of the way and escape. Also, the changes to tremors is appreciated.

Guan Yu: As a Diamond Guan Yu I can say I am thankful that the protections have been moved from Conviction and placed back where they belong, on Taolu Assault. It seemed very stupid to me that Painless scales on how many hits you take during combat and yet the heal provides the protections, not the actually engaging ability. Most of the initiations I use for The Saintly General involve running down a string of minions with Taolu, taking huge amounts of damage from the opposing team, using Warriors Will to finish off the minions and escape, then healing myself up and/or other players as well in correlation with whatever bonus was accumulated from Painless. Now that the protections are back where they belong, it means more hits, which means better heals, and I'm all for that. Added with a sugary topping of a better cool-down rate and a slightly reduced mana costs makes this one fine Cake of Buff for the true god of war.

Hebo: Totally appropriate nerf, water spout shouldn't slow in my opinion.

Hercules: Now if they could only nerf the stun at the end of driving strike. A man can dream.

The rest just seems to be bug fixes and appropriate Buffs/Nerfs.

AkDark
09-08-2014, 01:20 PM
@MoFriedChickens The Mayan gods are like 6 with kuku... you think they are enough?

Sukishoo
09-08-2014, 01:26 PM
Kukulkan:

I think the smite community has had enough Mayan gods for the time being.

Lol cause 6 is clearly a lot. You should check the Greek pantheon which has 13 gods.

The Hindu, Roman and Mayan deserve more, much more cause they have the least.

MoFriedChickens
09-08-2014, 01:50 PM
Meh, two Mayan gods in a row, plus one Chinese god being replaced, which brings their total to six as well. Just tired of the Mayan artwork scene, I'm pretty sure Cabraken art didn't blow anyone away. Kulkukan looks pretty sweet though. But didn't their Odyssey just head through Rome? I would've expected a Roman god or something. Just making sure we don't see three in a row.

Baphomelt
09-08-2014, 03:13 PM
Meh, two Mayan gods in a row, plus one Chinese god being replaced, which brings their total to six as well. Just tired of the Mayan artwork scene, I'm pretty sure Cabraken art didn't blow anyone away. Kulkukan looks pretty sweet though. But didn't their Odyssey just head through Rome? I would've expected a Roman god or something. Just making sure we don't see three in a row.

The Odyssey is on Norse Pantheon.

Verixa
09-08-2014, 05:52 PM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=n4RjJKxsamQ

Interesting patch cant wait to try some of these changes out and i'm pretty interested on seeing what Ao kaung (now that he wont be the noob noodle anymore) turns into come his re release

LainEdel
09-08-2014, 06:38 PM
Interesting patch cant wait to try some of these changes out and i'm pretty interested on seeing what Ao kaung (now that he wont be the noob noodle anymore) turns into come his re release

Kukulkan will have same abilities.

Verixa
09-08-2014, 07:53 PM
Kukulkan will have same abilities.

I was talking about the returning Ao Kuang with his brand new skill set not the "new god"

In the patch he does return of course

Sonel
09-08-2014, 10:33 PM
Sooo the Ao skin i bought with GEMS is being refunded as FAVOR..lovely..:mad:

RippleApple
09-08-2014, 11:17 PM
Sooo the Ao skin i bought with GEMS is being refunded as FAVOR..lovely..:mad:

Maybe try opening a support ticket?

WraithofLight
09-09-2014, 07:07 AM
I though the patch will be implemented today on the patch notes, the one i got it said 2014/09/09 is this an error?

OldKaostic
09-09-2014, 07:11 AM
I though the patch will be implemented today on the patch notes, the one i got it said 2014/09/09 is this an error?

Patch notes have been delayed. (http://forums.smitegame.com/showthread.php?30568-PTS-Patch-Notes-Addenudm)


Sooo the Ao skin i bought with GEMS is being refunded as FAVOR..lovely..:mad:


Maybe try opening a support ticket?

If you mean his recolor, it was stated in the patch notes that this would be refunded as favor.

Fayabongo
09-09-2014, 07:46 AM
I was asking so politely to fix nezha passive, and hirez didnt even mentioned about him, pls hirez its one little fix, make him comparable to other assasins, hes really behind atm....

Yukuai
09-09-2014, 08:19 AM
Nice patch: I really want to try these changes!

lronDX
09-09-2014, 10:43 AM
Eny1 has a clear idea of when is the patch coming out?

OldKaostic
09-09-2014, 10:50 AM
Eny1 has a clear idea of when is the patch coming out?

They are trying to get it out Wednesday morning but not heard anything else.

Sationix
09-09-2014, 11:11 AM
Hell yeah! First time after several months I like updates. But I have a question about this:


Players who own the existing Ao Kuang Player Icon will automatically receive the Retro Ao Kuang Player Icon.
Why Hirez didn't do it in Nu Wa case?

LainEdel
09-09-2014, 11:23 AM
They are trying to get it out Wednesday morning but not heard anything else.

So basically it should be live in about 24 hours? It's Tuesday morning PDT now.

OldKaostic
09-09-2014, 11:35 AM
So basically it should be live in about 24 hours? It's Tuesday morning PDT now.

That's the plan, I believe. This is subject to change.

Sukishoo
09-09-2014, 01:26 PM
Why Hirez didn't do it in Nu Wa case?

Cause they didn't make one?

KittyMeowz135
09-09-2014, 02:01 PM
Hell yeah! First time after several months I like updates. But I have a question about this:


Why Hirez didn't do it in Nu Wa case?

Because Ao is being removed for some time so they can't give them the new Ao icon and it would be dumb to take away their old one without being able to give them the new one right away.

WraithofLight
09-09-2014, 02:33 PM
Patch notes have been delayed. (http://forums.smitegame.com/showthread.php?30568-PTS-Patch-Notes-Addenudm)



I see maybe it will be Implemented tomorrow.

Sonel
09-09-2014, 06:46 PM
If you mean his recolor, it was stated in the patch notes that this would be refunded as favor.

I read that and that is why I am not happy about it, spending gems on anything and getting favor back is just stupid.

LainEdel
09-09-2014, 09:31 PM
I read that and that is why I am not happy about it, spending gems on anything and getting favor back is just stupid.

You will be able to buy another recolor with that favor. It's not like you bought 600 gem skin which is not purchasable by favor.

Strom49
09-09-2014, 10:33 PM
I'm an Odin player and I have always played him more based on damage so this kit will be perfect for me I'm hyped.

Aramey
09-10-2014, 03:20 AM
Freya
Spent some time at the orthodontist and plastic surgeon.
Wow, I was complaining about her look not long time ago. I might start playing her again, maybe also with the new skin :D
I was also about to buy new assassin so I can't wait to check new Arachne

Whiske
09-10-2014, 05:14 AM
Odin OP, Question mark

Larmos
09-10-2014, 06:13 AM
So my 2 fav characters are nerfed: Aphrodite and Hebo. The question is "why", as we almost never see them in game? If they are not so much played, it must be because they are not so powerful.

I mean, I can totally understand why Aphrodite now has a 3sec CD for her Kiss. First time I played her I was even surprised there was no CD. And even if it's not a good change for me, I would say it's a good thing.

But for Hebo, WHY??? I've played for months, and I think I've seen this character played by other people like 3-4 times only. And yes he has strong attacks, but he has to because of his slow move speed and his very bad defense. Water Cannon was not that powerful, his power was residing in the 3>1>4 combo, not in a single attack. Remove the Slow effect, and now he has absolutly no way to escape, when it was impossible before. Now he will just be a free target.

Will need to see in game how it feels, but I may try to find a new character. Thanatos looks okay but he is really OP, and it's very obvious because there is no single game without at least one Thanatos. The worst thing is... that guy is even not nerfed.

There is definitly a logic I can't understand.

NunoPitbull
09-10-2014, 07:06 AM
So my 2 fav characters are nerfed: Aphrodite and Hebo. The question is "why", as we almost never see them in game? If they are not so much played, it must be because they are not so powerful.

I mean, I can totally understand why Aphrodite now has a 3sec CD for her Kiss. First time I played her I was even surprised there was no CD. And even if it's not a good change for me, I would say it's a good thing.

But for Hebo, WHY??? I've played for months, and I think I've seen this character played by other people like 3-4 times only. And yes he has strong attacks, but he has to because of his slow move speed and his very bad defense. Water Cannon was not that powerful, his power was residing in the 3>1>4 combo, not in a single attack. Remove the Slow effect, and now he has absolutly no way to escape, when it was impossible before. Now he will just be a free target.

Will need to see in game how it feels, but I may try to find a new character. Thanatos looks okay but he is really OP, and it's very obvious because there is no single game without at least one Thanatos. The worst thing is... that guy is even not nerfed.

There is definitly a logic I can't understand.

Aphr I may understand aswell...but Hebo slow maybe to lower his chances to own so easily with 3 attacks only.

Now Nu Wa is just retarded nerfs. And gods like Loki who has complete kits (Stun,slow, CC imunity, extra mov speed, extra dmg, and stealth) is just ridiculous

IWellplayedI
09-10-2014, 08:07 AM
Worst Patch Ever! From Tactic Arachne To FACEROLL. Why Rework This Hero? Want My Gems Back :P GREAT WORK SMITE *kappa*

Cerigo
09-10-2014, 08:25 AM
I am NOT amused with the ao kuang change. I kind of want all my money back now. The gems i spend on the sacred skin and the voice pack. I hate mayan gods and would never play them, I loved Ao Kuang, why the rework? Another hero I will never play again. GG Hi-rez

The other changes are really good. Just should not have touched Ao Kuang.

PastaFreak
09-10-2014, 11:22 AM
Pardon me dear Hi-Rez balance team, but I believe the nerf on Nu Wa's Mysterious Fog may have gone too far, the value changes will not affect her early game, but it will significantly affect her mid - late game. A main weakness of Nu Wa's is that her early game isn't on par with the rest of the Gods. She is considered a goddess who revs up for late game, let the enemy team snowball through early-mid game and Nu Wa will have difficulties keeping up.

I would suggest adjusting her Fog damage to 75/100/150/175/215 (or 200), this would give her the ability to compete with pusher gods who have better early game than her, while significantly reducing her mid-late game by a bit. I believe the nerf was done in accordance to the fact that many competitive players were using the Fog for its damage than its utility. which is not wrong because honestly, her E+W combo is a bit unreliable due to the Clay Soldier's detection system, which is very clunky.

If you want to encourage people to utilize her E+W for damage, I suggest you fix the detection system for her soldiers as they tend prioritize minions over enemy gods at the moment. This is offset by the fact Nu Wa's W has horrible range and the animation can lead to some pretty fatal mistake for Nu Wa and also that the soldiers has some pretty horrible move speed, even more so now that the Fog has been nerfed. Alternatively, you may look in to increasing scalings or increasing the reliability of Nu Wa's overall damage if you insist on nerfing the Fog.

I understand that you want to venture in to the competitive scene, and a good way to start is by justifying the nerfs every time you release a patch, just like how Riot on LoL does. From there on, players may be able to engage with the team as to why certain buffs/nerfs are not necessary. Additionally, the team may want to be a bit more responsive towards the community's needs, a significant weakness found in HiRez.

Lowett
09-10-2014, 01:00 PM
by the way servers are still offline. this is a ridicilously long time for a patch like this. i'm feeling a bit sad because this is my only holiday. they're making this really slow.

with all my regards, im big fan of game; got ultimate god pack, referred friends. but wanna play asap :)

SnakeEye073
09-10-2014, 02:10 PM
Dowenloading goes slow. Because it is a very big patch :O Hi-Rez I'd like less changes in the next patch so i can play earlier ;)

SolisObscuri
09-10-2014, 02:14 PM
So Odin lost:
Minimap vision bonus
15/25/35/45/45 attack speed steroid
One point of base physical defense
0.1 point of scaling magic defense
15 points of base health and 6 health/level
Gungnir's Might damage decreased from 40/65/90/115/140 +40% (first hit) and 50/80/110/140/170 +30% on second hit to 35/50/65/80/95 +30% on each hit, and all HP5
Ring of Spears lost 25/40/55/70/85 Protections, 35/55/75/95/115 power, and 15% movement speed, as well as the full CC immunity (Odin is protected from Slow and Root effects only)

Odin gained
+5 power for every god kill in Ring of Spears
5 points of base mana and 3 mana/level
0.1 point of base MP5
0.08 attacks/second base and 0.001 attacks speed/level
New damage shield ability that can also be used to AoE damage enemies
Slow from Gungnir's might starts at 40% and loses scaling, slow duration now scales 2/2.2/2.4/2.6/2.8s
Ring of Spears does not block ally movement, gains enemy attack speed reduction 20/30/40/50/60% and enemy healing reduction 100%
Cooldowns on Gungnir's Might and Ring of Spears decreased 20%
Gained 10% damage on his leap

I'm not sure if, overall, these are buffs or a slight nerf. Odin could put out a lot of damage from his Shout steroid at higher levels (trades a 55% attacks speed steroid for a 10% passive attack speed), and he loses some damage in Gungnir's might as well. He gain a small amount of CC. Ring of Spears drops his strength/protection buffs. I think the Raven Shield will help with that a little, but I wonder if Odin isn't going to be dying in his Ring a lot more (and he already did pretty often). He's still painfully slow, also, and still pretty mana screwed.

RippleApple
09-10-2014, 02:24 PM
I think he'll be picked as a counterpick to healers, not just because high level players think Odin is great in and of himself at being a solo lane god.

DD321123
09-10-2014, 02:54 PM
Odysseus' Bow is a cool item cause it allows adcs like cupid/xbal to get clear.

The problem is how physical gods that need anything but more clear and damage (the lightning can hit the same enemy multiple times, glhf with your 90 + 150%) can buy it.

jonaseben
09-10-2014, 05:46 PM
The Sacred Dragon skin remains as an option on Kukulcan, and retains Ao Kuang’s retro voice pack. Players who own that skin will continue to own it.
Players who purchased Ao Kuang’s voice pack will be refunded the Gem value.
Players who purchased Ao Kuang’s Typhoon skin will be refunded the Favor value.

umm this did not happen for me
had sacred dragon skin do not now; had typhoon skin do not now
no change in my favor.
anyone else have this issue?

NubstepHD
09-10-2014, 10:41 PM
Please fix the new Neith Ms. Diagnosis voice. It is very soft and hard to hear compared to her old voice. When there is some fighting going on, you cannot hear her voice at all.

Zoanoid
09-11-2014, 10:12 AM
i am not pleased at all....imo u ruined arachne :SSSSS arachne was very good at support and assasination....i liked to save my teammates lives by puling the enemy away
but now...arachne is useless at this point....and the ulti is shit compared to the legendary, usefull, powerfull pull....very dissapointed

LainEdel
09-11-2014, 04:28 PM
i am not pleased at all....imo u ruined arachne :SSSSS arachne was very good at support and assasination....i liked to save my teammates lives by puling the enemy away
but now...arachne is useless at this point....and the ulti is shit compared to the legendary, usefull, powerfull pull....very dissapointed

Arachne is OP now, she destroys everyone 1v1, + you can't escape her and her ulti is good for getting away as well.
And I'm sure they will give her old ultimate to someone else in the future, so calm down.

RippleApple
09-11-2014, 05:27 PM
Arachne is OP now, she destroys everyone 1v1, + you can't escape her and her ulti is good for getting away as well.
And I'm sure they will give her old ultimate to someone else in the future, so calm down.

His name is Sobek.

arka222
09-12-2014, 12:59 AM
Move curse app so that it doesnt overlap kill and death information. Reduce the size of team player icons on the top left corner.

MoFriedChickens
09-12-2014, 07:13 AM
Move curse app so that it doesnt overlap kill and death information. Reduce the size of team player icons on the top left corner.

You do realize you can make these adjustments yourself using the in game hud editor?

arka222
09-12-2014, 01:23 PM
didn't knew it honestly. Never bothered

Shaman
09-15-2014, 03:37 AM
Why the UI change? This new one puts too much weight to the left side of the screen and does very little to create balance on the right.