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HiRezDrybear
08-01-2014, 05:06 PM
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God Remake: New Nu Wa

Strength Of Wood



After 5 successful basic attacks, Nu Wa's next basic attack will root enemies.


Mysterious Fog



[*=1]Nu Wa condenses moisture into fog at her location which then rolls forward away from her. She and all allies are stealthed while inside the fog, and have increased movement speed. Attacking breaks the stealth effect. Enemies that run into the fog take 50/100/150/200/250 + 50% of her magical power as damage, and continue to take 20% of that damage again every second they are in the fog. Cooldown 15s. Cost 70/75/80/85/90.


Clay Soldiers



[*=1]Nu Wa conjures Clay Soldiers from the earth. These soldiers have health equal to 200 plus 20% of Nu Wa's maximum health, and deal 20/30/40/50/60 damage with basic attacks. Enemies hit by their initial charge will take damage and have their magical protections reduced by 5/10/15/20/25 for 2s. Cooldown 18s. Cost 60/70/80/90/100.


Shining Metal



[*=1]Nu Wa launches a mass of shining metal, dealing 90/140/190/240/290 + 50% of her magical power to all enemies it hits. If it hits one of her Clay Soldiers, it explodes, dealing 40/80/120/160/200 in additional damage and stunning enemies for 1/1.2/1.4/1.8/2s. Cooldown 10. Cost 60.


Fire Shards



[*=1]Nu Wa flies up into the clouds, gaining visibility on all enemy gods, and summoning fire shards from the sky to deal 100/175/250/325/400 + 50% of her magical power as damage to each of them. Cooldown 110. Cost 100.





New God Skins


The Survivor Ullr
Nuclear Winter Ymir

This skin is available only as an exclusive treasure box reward.


Derpules Hercules

This skin is available only as an exclusive treasure box reward.


Lunar Tango Chang'e

This skin will initially be available only for special promotions related to the new Latin American servers.




New Voice Packs


Nu Wa
Zeus
Derpules Hercules
Nuclear Winter Ymir
Lunar Tango Chang'e



Auto Purchasing / Leveling


The Item Builder has been renamed to Character Builder as it allows for custom ability leveling again
The default Auto Purchase profiles for some Gods now purchase a few extra consumables at the start of a match
You are now able to purchase and sell consumables while in Auto Purchase Mode.
You are now able to purchase and upgrade Actives in Auto Purchase Mode.
If you create a Custom page in the Character Builder, you are now able to use that as your Custom Build.

Consumables selected for the build will be purchased at the start of the match.

Consumables allow a quantity selection


Actives selected for the build will have rank 1 purchased at the start of the match.
Items selected for the build will be bought from left to right.
After all Items are maxed out, the Actives will buy additional levels.


The ability tab of the Character Builder allows you to create a custom order of skills to level up.
Lobby Store Featured Banner updated to (Nu Wa, Zeus, The Survivor, and Treasure Chest) with represented images
Each level the player can set a specific skill or to skip spending their skill point for that level

Any level can have up to two skill points spent on it, assuming you have skipped a previous levels skill point.




Treasure Boxes


Now introducing Treasure Boxes!
Treasure boxes allow players to purchase a roll for a chance to receive exclusive and rare items! (skins, icons, ward skins, etc.)
There are 4 tiers of item rarity inside the treasure box.

Epic
Rare
Uncommon
Common


Players can receive skins for gods that they do not currently own.
Players will never receive treasure that they already own.



Custom Games


The Invite button now allows you to invite multiple people at once as well as invite players directly from your friends list.
Whenever a player leaves the lobby, they are returned to the lobby list screen.
Players switching teams in room causes the match lobby pick order to change.
Joining a team of 5 will appear to move over 2 players from the other team, and leave a top slot empty.
There is a new indicator that specifies who the room owner is




Misc


Your new free god rotation is Zeus, Hades, Tyr, Ullr, and Loki! Sweet!
Fixed global scale not saving correctly per session.
Purchasing the bundle via the Heli ward will not appear to give the ward until relog.
Pending party invites are able to be canceled by the party leader (This is done by kicking the pending player)
With the Booster pack, you’ll always get at least 1 worshiper.
Fixed an issue with 1st win of the day not playing the acquisition accolade.
Siege has had performance optimizations.
All icons have been given a Gem price and no longer purchasable with favor.





General Gameplay


If a player leaves during a surrender vote and has not voted, then the count is reduced to only those still in the match.





Items



Bumbas Mask

Passive bonus now applies to pets


Hand of the Gods

Improved tooltip description.






Gods - Balance/Updates/Fixes

He Bo


Scroll of the Yellow River

No longer able to jump over part of the scroll.


Janus


General

Base health increased from 380 to 400.


Portal

Cooldown reduced from 15s to 12s.


Kumbhakarna


Sleepy

Remaining hits indicator now properly updates if he reaches a level that increases the number of hits to down him while he’s napping.
Fixed a bug where the passive was not providing an extra required hit at level 20.
Fixed a bug where Kumbhakarna could be healed while sleepin


Neith


General

Ms. Diagnosis targeters have been updated (For realsies)


Rama


General

Fixed an issue with his ability targeters starting out faint and loading in over a short time.


Astral Strike

Slow now stacks up to 3 times, changed from 20/25/30/35/40 to 10% at all ranks.
Now costs 25 mana per shot


Serqet


Ambush

Jump distance increased from 55ft to 65ft.
Time before Serqet can leap after activation decreased from 0.3s to 0s.


Last Breath

The 1s grab on this ability is no longer affected by diminishing returns, or CC Reduction.


Sun Wukong


Master's Will

Cooldown decreased from 12 to 10s.
Mana cost reduced from 60/70/80/90/100 to 50 at all ranks.


Thanatos


Thanatos

Changed “pounce” to “dive” in his tooltip. Boom.


Vamana


General

Divine Protector skin now has a proper CC Immunity glow.


Xbalanque


Poison Dart

Fixed German futbol skin showing black futbols when Particle Detail was below max.

dafinch
08-01-2014, 05:08 PM
Great patch, only problem is that there's no new items and that convention skins can be gotten out of the boxes. What exactly dictates that Twitchymir/Poolseidon/Cacodemon have more value over 2012 Artemis?

LostScarf
08-01-2014, 05:11 PM
New Nu Wa

New skins -------

Nu Wa skins and cards all look good, makin' it hard not to look a specific place though jeez.

Zeus Thunderhead, instant buy. That is what cool ass looking Zeus, he better have purple lightning. That'll be too awesome.

Survivor Ullr; snap that looks crazy. Flaming arrows and Bloody axes, really good look effects.

Latin American only Tango Chang'e WHY!? WHY WHY WHY?! Why even show this to us? Why show us skins we can't have? Also holy crap that's a stereotypical skin.

4 New Wards-----

Satellite ward, makes sense as a ward doesn't it.

Quetzalcoatl ward, looks cool; I hope the Mayan gods say something about it.

Chest ward, what?

Thought they said 4 wards...

General stuff----

New voices for Zeus and Nu Wa, I liked those voices... Tears... sure the new ones will be well done though. The voice actors have been great.

There's only retro icons, no skins or voice packs. Kinda sad about that, that is a way to make more money.

Character builder improved with levels and better equipment set up, this is great it'll be very helpful with the guides.

Items----

Bumbas mask, pets now get 10% bonus power to jungle mobs, so this helps Arachne mostly.

Gods----

He Bo buffed: Gods can no longer jump over part of the water scroll. "Jump will not affect gameplay" -HiRez when Jump was added to game.

Janus buffed: 20 more HP on Janus and lower CD on Portal by 3s. Gives him a little more utility and survivability.

Rama Nerfed: The slow on his first ability can no only go as high as 30% and now it costs mana. He'll still be mostly mana efficient, he may still not need blue buff. This stacking definitely hurts his ability to kill gods though.

Serqet buffed: Her leap now jumps further and can now instantly jump without a delay. She is no longer affected by diminishing returns or CC reduction during her ultimate now.

Sun Wukong buffed: CD and mana reduction to his spin slow. Allows him to be a bit more aggressive and clear lanes without using too much.

Treasure Chest-------

An interesting way to make money. People will roll for the rare skins, but there will be mostly rolls of voice packs and skins of gods you may or may not care for. You have a chance of getting something worth 200 gems and up, so value wise you certainly get a good deal. If you don't care about what you get, it'll be a good deal to give money to hirez and get something out of it. If you don't have much money, don't bother and get specifically what you want; but if you have money to spare, give it a shot. Dear god I want those skins though, also it'd be nice to get Convention Art, the only Convention skin I don't have.

Looking at Nu Wa's new Kit-------

Passive: Her ability to root a god is an interesting idea and will allow her to spam all her abilities on a rooted opponent if she can land it on them and not a minion or pet.

1st ability: A good crowd clearing ability and it allows you to travel with it and keep the stealth. It does create some predictability in your movements though, so not sure how useful it will be.

2nd ability: A much better set of clay soldiers, they'll be most useful in blocking and set up though.

3rd ability: A damaging ability that can blow up her clay soldiers, that'll definitely make people want to keep away from there. Old Wa, people would ignore these soldiers, not anymore.

Ultimate: There goes skill... At level 20 you should be able to get about 600MP on her pretty well, that's 700 damage pre-mitigation. That is more than enough to finish off an enemy god that got away. If you thought Neith's ultimate was annoying, this is going to be a lot worse.

Summary---

The Art team does an awesome job as usual, the kit team did a good job with making Nu Wa's kit flow well, but that ultimate will bother me. Smite's selling point was being the MOBA took skill to play and now we have the antithesis to skill, an ultimate that hits everything with the push of a button. People were worried the Karthus ult would come to Smite someday and that day has come. The balances are fine this patch, curious to see what Rama's laning and kill potential will be like though. Overall a good patch, but a disappointing one at the same time.

Now for a patch notes discussion and 400 gem giveaway at www.twitch.tv/ScarfPlays

dafinch
08-01-2014, 05:15 PM
Screenshots for those of you who missed the Patchnotes reveal:

http://imgur.com/a/AXSE3

http://imgur.com/a/Cd7W8

http://imgur.com/a/dGtHE

Twitch Vod:


http://www.twitch.tv/smitegame/b/553529953

PimpPoweR
08-01-2014, 05:38 PM
Give Zeus an attack progression....... and some more buffs since Janus and Serqet were OP and now they are even more OP then they were before

Sukishoo
08-01-2014, 05:38 PM
Latin American only Tango Chang'e WHY!? WHY WHY WHY?! Why even show this to us? Why show us skins we can't have? Also holy crap that's a stereotypical skin.

It says "initially".. so it will eventually be available to us as well.

iGodOfFight
08-01-2014, 05:48 PM
Rama is fucked,
25 MP per shot?! RU CRAZY?!
if it's 25 MP per shot then he need to have them unlimited

All the point is that it takes time to create them.
But he have only 205 MP at the start. So one road of arrow cost 125 MP!!! It's insane!
He don't have any other skills like neith / Artmis have. So this arrow are basicly all his skills, he don't have heal skill like neith, not special ranged like Artemis.

And now it's 25MP for 1 arrow?! IT's crazy!!!

dafinch
08-01-2014, 05:54 PM
Rama is fucked,
25 MP per shot?! RU CRAZY?!
if it's 25 MP per shot then he need to have them unlimited

All the point is that it takes time to create them.
But he have only 205 MP at the start. So one road of arrow cost 125 MP!!! It's insane!
He don't have any other skills like neith / Artmis have. So this arrow are basicly all his skills, he don't have heal skill like neith, not special ranged like Artemis.

And now it's 25MP for 1 arrow?! IT's crazy!!!

dude, theres this thing called MATH, use it

3 Arrows usually clear a wave, so 3x 25= 75 mana. Pretty much the same cost to clear it for Anhur or Apollo

Baphomelt
08-01-2014, 05:55 PM
Rama is fucked,
25 MP per shot?! RU CRAZY?!
if it's 25 MP per shot then he need to have them unlimited

All the point is that it takes time to create them.
But he have only 205 MP at the start. So one road of arrow cost 125 MP!!! It's insane!
He don't have any other skills like neith / Artmis have. So this arrow are basicly all his skills, he don't have heal skill like neith, not special ranged like Artemis.

And now it's 25MP for 1 arrow?! IT's crazy!!!

But one arrow is enough to almost kill the whole minion wave early game. After level 8, two arrows and you're clear.
Plus this is meant to Rama players actually get the blue buff. A hunter that doesn't need mana to waveclear breaks the game mechanics since the mana buff can go to the support, which means both of 'em will be in the lane for way more time and way more sustain.

Knox089
08-01-2014, 05:59 PM
I'm still waiting for them to buff odin...but at least they brought back the auto leveler

SeductivePower
08-01-2014, 06:05 PM
Give Zeus an attack progression....... and some more buffs since Janus and Serqet were OP and now they are even more OP then they were before

Serqet and op? I guess u never played her srsly..

iGodOfFight
08-01-2014, 06:10 PM
dude, theres this thing called MATH, use it

3 Arrows usually clear a wave, so 3x 25= 75 mana. Pretty much the same cost to clear it for Anhur or Apollo


But one arrow is enough to almost kill the whole minion wave early game. After level 8, two arrows and you're clear.
Plus this is meant to Rama players actually get the blue buff. A hunter that doesn't need mana to waveclear breaks the game mechanics since the mana buff can go to the support, which means both of 'em will be in the lane for way more time and way more sustain.
Anhur and Apollo have other skill, anhur can stun enemy, jump on enemy, put a wired sand thing on enemy and his 4th slay the player.
Rama don't have this kind of skills.
10MP would be enought. not 25 each.

iGodOfFight
08-01-2014, 06:23 PM
And I don't beleive it, all this debuff to character and no debuff for Vulcan?!
He is so OP!!

Baphomelt
08-01-2014, 06:35 PM
Anhur and Apollo have other skill, anhur can stun enemy, jump on enemy, put a wired sand thing on enemy and his 4th slay the player.
Rama don't have this kind of skills.
10MP would be enought. not 25 each.

Rama has attack power buff, attack speed buff, cripple, slows, awesome chasing/escaping potential and his ult has huge range with AoE damage/slow.
Seriously, it's two people in one lane, it shouldn't be dificult to wipe a minion wave. Compares his kit to Artemis, Cupid and Xblanque.
Anhur stun has to be pre-made, you can't always stun if you can't position yourself right. He can't escape that well. He has no buffs. Apollo on the other hand is quite OP, but even Apollo has to sacrifice some mana to wave clear. And again... it's two people in one lane. If a Rama and a support can't wipe minions with 4 skills each, then something's wrong with the players, not the characters.

Plo0wed
08-01-2014, 07:03 PM
Anhur and Apollo have other skill, anhur can stun enemy, jump on enemy, put a wired sand thing on enemy and his 4th slay the player.
Rama don't have this kind of skills.
10MP would be enought. not 25 each.

Are you serious bro, rama has an escape which can be used by an autist, can handicap anhur so he can't jump, and an ultimate which can make him take 0 dmg for some seconds and kill from rly far.

What do you want more ? 0 mana for skills ?

dkabot
08-01-2014, 08:18 PM
Serqet and op? I guess u never played her srsly..

Oh? She only has a taunt, a CC available only to Athena before this, along with massive damage and a speedy escape that also makes her invisible. Not to mention her ult and its throw and healing removal.

Demystificator
08-01-2014, 08:30 PM
Serqet is buffed, I'd have bet it.

Hope this won't change a lot of things but Janus and Sun Wukong are quite greatly buffed °o°

Left4Dinner
08-01-2014, 10:06 PM
Why is Zeus not tweaked? I swear, he seemed like an OP god, and I've played him for a few rounds and he is pretty easy to play and not as squishy as say Ao Kuang.

keviniskewl
08-01-2014, 10:07 PM
will there be a pts tomorrow?

Abasena
08-01-2014, 10:16 PM
Disappointed about Nu Wa's golden player card, was expecting it to look better ;-; Her older one looks perfect. Loving the Nuclear Ymir though.

StrikeMagic
08-02-2014, 12:28 AM
Except with all the things that involve Nu Wa, I'm really happy with this patch. Finally we have a treasure box and for sure I'll throw some gems there c:

Pandarina
08-02-2014, 12:34 AM
The treasure box idea is amazing, really! But Nu Wa remake - for me - isn't a good thing at all (really, she was better before).

RandomNPC15
08-02-2014, 01:08 AM
Wow unlucky me, I'm a new player (2 days now) and bought Nu Wa as my first god a few hours ago :\ I didn't see anything in game that would hint that she was undergoing complete redesign. Really sucks :\ insta-regret.

keviniskewl
08-02-2014, 01:17 AM
meh actually like the new nuwa better

VoidDraconix
08-02-2014, 01:58 AM
I think Nu Wa is ruined now and now she really doesnt have a escape at all. Q_Q Its upsetting

ViralMarketer
08-02-2014, 02:40 AM
This patch has both good and bad things.

Nu Wa remake, please, Imma go back to ranked to not see her for awhile, it's just ewww.
Zeus rework - 11/10! Just epic!
Rama mana usage added and slow nerf - awesome!
Janus buff - wtf.
He Bo still OP.
Treasure boxes - spend all your gems, get all the recolor skins.
More eye candy skins which don't add anything to the game balance.
At least the autoleveler and autobuy is back so new players can be happy again.

Firellius
08-02-2014, 03:17 AM
What happened to you guys?

SMITE was so good for so long, but every recent patch has done something terribly, terribly wrong. Polynomicon Nerf, Qin's Sais nerf, Rage nerf, buffs to all bruiser items... Now the Nu Wa rework. What was the goal? Why did her playstyle get removed?

Backdooring getting removed is understandable, that was annoying and painful, but there were better ways to deal with it than removing Nu Wa entirely. Her playstyle's gone and as my friend said, she's no longer a magical DPS anymore.

Also, is that ult fail-free? Nemesis' ult was already an insult to your own game, if this is fail-free as well, SMITE's breaking down.

Zigbon
08-02-2014, 04:00 AM
Why is Zeus not tweaked? I swear, he seemed like an OP god, and I've played him for a few rounds and he is pretty easy to play and not as squishy as say Ao Kuang.

Zeus and OP do not belong in the same sentence. The only thing OP about him was the 3 stun and attack progression, because with max cd and penetration you can stun someone, ult, have your autos hit for 100%more damage because of the charges, and then when they 'think' they got away, 3 again. In the expanse of ten seconds you'd have a total of 700 or so odd damage and a 3 second stun, in just one ability, not to mention the ult. Now that both the progression AND stun are gone, I'd rather they buff him and give one back at least. I'd prefer the attack chain to make many different builds (like a first item tele ring) viable on him.

Zigbon
08-02-2014, 04:11 AM
My thoughts on the patch-- Nu Wa has become Karthus, with ugly gold skins and big boobs, Zeus is starting to have pretty skins, not just good cards, now (although his model and in-game portrait need buffs). Treasure Chest is gonna make me wanna cry because Art 2012 and Derpcules. Ullr skin, yaaaay. Buff on Janus, even if it's only an HP and CD buff, make me cry. He has too much mobility, he can just nope a team fight or create one. SWK getting his 2 buffed so he plays waveclear more like a physical Hel (which is walk into wave, press one button), and that mana cost is so damn low it hurts. Sweep the leg, men, sweep the leg. Rama nerf, cool, he was over-used anyway, but I wouldn't call his 1 OP enough to deserve that. Apollo needs a little nerf sometime soon (this coming from a main, legendary apollo) because he is just too good. New ward skins are quirky, I like it. Zeus needs a little buff imo but don't hate me for it.

Nigadry
08-02-2014, 04:50 AM
What happened to fixing janus 2 targeting? Thought that was happening?

SeductivePower
08-02-2014, 05:10 AM
I am sorry Hi-Rez, but Nu Wa's ulti dmg is pretty useless. It's 100+50% dmg at lvl 5. Maybe she'll deal around 80 dmg on squishies. That's ridiculous for an ultimate srsly. Nu Wa has actually no ultimate till lvl 20. Every other mage has higher dmg on his/her ultimate. If u have 600 MP u'd deal 400 +300 dmg (700 dmg) -20% magical protection would be 560 dmg. 560 dmg for an ultimate at lvl 20. This is ridiculous. Scylla, Ao or even He Bo are able to deal around 2k dmg with their ultimates and Nu Wa has to buy 40% cdr to lower her ulti cd which means less dmg/m.pen. Btw there are some normal skills which deal more dmg than her ultimate so that's very ridiculous and annoying.

Firellius
08-02-2014, 06:24 AM
I am sorry Hi-Rez, but Nu Wa's ulti dmg is pretty useless. It's 100+50% dmg at lvl 5. Maybe she'll deal around 80 dmg on squishies. That's ridiculous for an ultimate srsly. Nu Wa has actually no ultimate till lvl 20. Every other mage has higher dmg on his/her ultimate. If u have 600 MP u'd deal 400 +300 dmg (700 dmg) -20% magical protection would be 560 dmg. 560 dmg for an ultimate at lvl 20. This is ridiculous. Scylla, Ao or even He Bo are able to deal around 2k dmg with their ultimates and Nu Wa has to buy 40% cdr to lower her ulti cd which means less dmg/m.pen. Btw there are some normal skills which deal more dmg than her ultimate so that's very ridiculous and annoying.

I think it's because, apparently, the ability is largely in conflict with the original nature of SMITE and is auto-aimed.

SeductivePower
08-02-2014, 07:25 AM
I think it's because, apparently, the ability is largely in conflict with the original nature of SMITE and is auto-aimed.

Then make it a normal skillshot. Hi-Rez says all the time, "Only skillshots and skill needed for this game" and now they create the first target spell. Make it a normal skillshot and increase the dmg drastically!

Kullar
08-02-2014, 09:40 AM
I can't be alone here. I've been playing the game since closed beta and went to the conventions. I'm really disappointed that con skins will be available in the treasure chest. That really destroys the collectibility of them. :( Limited availability skins should be just that.

Left4Dinner
08-02-2014, 09:47 AM
Zeus and OP do not belong in the same sentence. The only thing OP about him was the 3 stun and attack progression, because with max cd and penetration you can stun someone, ult, have your autos hit for 100%more damage because of the charges, and then when they 'think' they got away, 3 again. In the expanse of ten seconds you'd have a total of 700 or so odd damage and a 3 second stun, in just one ability, not to mention the ult. Now that both the progression AND stun are gone, I'd rather they buff him and give one back at least. I'd prefer the attack chain to make many different builds (like a first item tele ring) viable on him.

But that's why he is OP if he gets that build, and does that combo. I mean, it's just out right,unfair, but then again, I'm the person who thinks that the Ao tornado thing should only affect you while you are within contact of the storm

Sationix
08-02-2014, 09:49 AM
Why I have to pay for my old NuWa (player) icon I once paid for?
This patch sucks in all ways possible.

dkabot
08-02-2014, 09:54 AM
Why I have to pay for my old NuWa (player) icon I once paid for?
Been like that with remodels after the icon system. For instance, see Bastet.

Myrkulyte
08-02-2014, 02:06 PM
I am sorry Hi-Rez, but Nu Wa's ulti dmg is pretty useless. It's 100+50% dmg at lvl 5. Maybe she'll deal around 80 dmg on squishies. That's ridiculous for an ultimate srsly. Nu Wa has actually no ultimate till lvl 20. Every other mage has higher dmg on his/her ultimate. If u have 600 MP u'd deal 400 +300 dmg (700 dmg) -20% magical protection would be 560 dmg. 560 dmg for an ultimate at lvl 20. This is ridiculous. Scylla, Ao or even He Bo are able to deal around 2k dmg with their ultimates and Nu Wa has to buy 40% cdr to lower her ulti cd which means less dmg/m.pen. Btw there are some normal skills which deal more dmg than her ultimate so that's very ridiculous and annoying.

And what? 560x5=2800dmg.
That ultimate is not made for dueling, that ultimate is made for securing Kills, she deal that damage to everyone, so if you just escaped with 300HP from a team-fight as a loki or ne zha or Hunter etc, she use her ultimate and you are dead. This way she could made a very easy pentakill. That ultimate is no risk/medium reward so....

IvanPhoneix
08-02-2014, 02:10 PM
Will I have to buy remaked Nu Wa if i had Nu Wa before, if not will i get my favour back which i spent on her for purchase?

Goobis
08-02-2014, 02:19 PM
So..... you buff one of the best mages in the game because he takes practice..... yet you completely ignore someone who actually needs it like Guan?

Demystificator
08-02-2014, 03:11 PM
Then make it a normal skillshot. Hi-Rez says all the time, "Only skillshots and skill needed for this game" and now they create the first target spell. Make it a normal skillshot and increase the dmg drastically!

Chronos ulti is not a skillshot, HiRez sucks for longer you may think. Seriously, you don't have to play her when she'll be changed. If you think that the god is completely no skill, no brain, you're deeply wrong.

Firellius
08-02-2014, 03:50 PM
Chronos ulti is not a skillshot, HiRez sucks for longer you may think. Seriously, you don't have to play her when she'll be changed. If you think that the god is completely no skill, no brain, you're deeply wrong.

It's not the god that's no skill, no brain. It's the ability. Chronos' ult does nothing if you use it at the wrong time. Athena's ult does next to nothing if you use it at the wrong time. Neith's ult does nothing if the enemy team pays attention. Zeus' detonation does nothing without first having hit the target.

Nemesis and Nu Wa are now the only two gods with infallible ultimates. Nu Wa has a bit more counter due to Aegis probably being able to block the shot, but that's really all it's got going against it being a no skill, no brain ability.

SeductivePower
08-02-2014, 03:55 PM
Chronos ulti is not a skillshot, HiRez sucks for longer you may think. Seriously, you don't have to play her when she'll be changed. If you think that the god is completely no skill, no brain, you're deeply wrong.

Wow amazing example...Fenrir's ulti is also no skillshot... Vamana's ulti is the same..., but they have to do sth for dealing dmg (Fenrir grab and Vamana hit). Chronos saves his life with this ultimate. But they are no target spells.

I didn't say that Nu Wa is no skill, no brain and if so, pls show me that...All i say is that her ulti is completely useless till lvl 20. First of all u can dodge it easily with aegis, it has a fckin long CD, it's not even a skillshot and it has extremely low dmg for an ultimate and for a mage skill.

VoidDraconix
08-02-2014, 05:22 PM
I completely agree with you it is a terrible ulti and it doesn't even do enough dmg to secure kills till max lvl, also it doesnt really have a place in this game to make a skill like that it seems useless in many ways.

SwarmHostHUN
08-02-2014, 07:44 PM
Everytime when a patch note come out i can wait to see if arachne gets back some of her strenght or some new goodies but i allways have to be disapointed :((((

dkabot
08-02-2014, 08:19 PM
Will I have to buy remaked Nu Wa if i had Nu Wa before, if not will i get my favour back which i spent on her for purchase?

It's as if she wasn't changed in that regard. You get whatever you had. Had her? Got the new her. Had her vp? Got the new vp. Had Amethyst? Got the new Amethyst. Had 1000 worshippers and Legendary skin? Got that too.

Demystificator
08-02-2014, 08:25 PM
Wow amazing example...Fenrir's ulti is also no skillshot... Vamana's ulti is the same..., but they have to do sth for dealing dmg (Fenrir grab and Vamana hit). Chronos saves his life with this ultimate. But they are no target spells.

I didn't say that Nu Wa is no skill, no brain and if so, pls show me that...All i say is that her ulti is completely useless till lvl 20. First of all u can dodge it easily with aegis, it has a fckin long CD, it's not even a skillshot and it has extremely low dmg for an ultimate and for a mage skill.

So its that its a target spell ? Like xba's ?
Here this ult doesn't deal that much damage, you need to do something after to make it worth.

Ares' ulti can be dodged easily with beads or even with some skills like Xba 3rd and Hel 2nd (that last example is easy, but still valid).
He Bo can be dodged with Aegis too (Ok that's not that easy but it works).


This ulti gives vision on all ennemies for 1s.

Once more, if you're counterwarded at fire giant, gold fury, this ulti will be helpful. You can know what ennemies are planning, if you may gank safely, hunt the jungler, prevent some ganks, give an opportunity for Neith ult. And as someone in an other thread said, it can hit up to 800 lategame on each target thanks to scaling.

With full cdr, the ulti is spammable every 66secs.

But I agree, in pub where ppl want to be AP carry, this ult sucks cause it requires cooperation.


Last word, to come back to target spell. Well, well, its easy in fact but I don't feel this is a problem as the effectiveness of ulti, just like Vamana or Chronos, is a matter of "when its used".

HiRez wants to add a new way to have vision to set new way to mind your game.
The problem with damage. If you increase it, it will become quickly OP.
The problem with aiming, you'd reveal something like one or 2 gods if you have no idea where to aim. Doesn't worth any ward or Scylla's pet.
If you keep damages, it will make it still powerful. As now it deals up to 500 damage at lv1, divided for each players, but if you make hit single target, it will do too much damage...

The problem with cd, you have to mind the cdr. If you can deal or reveal position of each gods each 30s, Nu Wa players may just camp and spam the ulti.

The only way I see to fix it is that she would reveal gods only in the direction she's watching but yet, if you'd cast it from your spawn, watching the opposite Titan, it will do the same effect as now...

Kohajashi
08-02-2014, 09:08 PM
I'm a little curious about the new chest. They said if you already have the skin X or voicepack X you can't get them anymore. Now i wonder what happens if you have all possible skins out of the chest including convention skins etc. Will there be a 100% chance for the epic skins or are you just going to roll 200 gems for a 1% on getting the epic skins? I'd love if someone knows that, cheers

Blogert
08-02-2014, 09:43 PM
Well, I'm still a bit salty for Odin's sake. But as Nu Wa is my 2nd favorite god in the game... *.* Hi Rez, you magnificent bastards!

dkabot
08-03-2014, 12:08 AM
This ulti gives vision on all ennemies for 1s.

Once more, if you're counterwarded at fire giant, gold fury, this ulti will be helpful. You can know what ennemies are planning, if you may gank safely, hunt the jungler, prevent some ganks, give an opportunity for Neith ult. And as someone in an other thread said, it can hit up to 800 lategame on each target thanks to scaling.

With full cdr, the ulti is spammable every 66secs.

Don't forget the utility of skill hit items. You can initiate a fight with a teamwide Divine Ruin, or if you're crazy/have it built anyway Spear of the Magus. There's also Gem of Isolation which works as an initiate and a chase. If you're even more crazy than mentioned already, you can automatically Soul Reaver their highest HP (living) god.

There's a good deal of potential utility alongside that vision.

dkabot
08-03-2014, 12:10 AM
I'm a little curious about the new chest. They said if you already have the skin X or voicepack X you can't get them anymore. Now i wonder what happens if you have all possible skins out of the chest including convention skins etc. Will there be a 100% chance for the epic skins or are you just going to roll 200 gems for a 1% on getting the epic skins? I'd love if someone knows that, cheers

As it stands, chests decide a rarity on roll, then take something from there. If by chance you have everything in a group (all VPs, Ward Skins, whatever) and it chooses that, you get an open animation that does nothing. No chest is consumed, but you don't get anything.
Makes things a tad annoying if you DO have everything, since you have to hit roll so many times before you get something, though it'll probably be good.

TZEVE
08-03-2014, 09:56 AM
Well nice patch but they should give sonething to zeus the hit progression the stun or more bursting skills.he is out of competitive

Demystificator
08-03-2014, 10:55 AM
They removed stun from detonate a few patches ago. It used to stun instead of slowing.

He's out of competition cause he has no escape imo.

TZEVE
08-03-2014, 03:59 PM
Its not the escape ability that kicked him out of competition.Zeus had a special playstyle to zone the enemy team with the combo of chain and ult he was able to nuke the hole team under some circumstances that was his best part of the game,teamfights in fg and gf.but he hadnt the same clearing power he hadnt the instant burst and he hadnt the escaping skill of other gods.Now he has no zoninig with the stun cause he cant apply those multiple charges to control the enemy team.well the stun was a must in his playstyle.Hirezz trying to make all gods similar with one escape one clearing skill and one busrting skill.They should stop this cause they ruin the different playstyle of the gods.In the end its not the god thats making the META but the player.

Arisuneko
08-03-2014, 07:35 PM
The new Nu Wa is terrible in every aspect and I do not understand the changes. And I couldn't care less about asian smite wanting to market the game with her because that doesn't require a new skill set.

Old Nu Wa was amazing at holding off enemies, chasing them, killing towers and just overall was perfectly balanced. Now her ult is just some crappy skill that hardly supports her in these things and there are already enough gods that fly up on ult. I understand that many may not like the old ult either but it had a really short cd and can be used for so many purposes. And why would they make a skill dependant on the clay soldiers who are **so** slow?! I see no logic in this new set at all.

Her old voice pack was unique and powerful while not yelling like Artemis. Now it's just some pseudo-cute voice with no emotion at all. I paid for this voice pack knowing what it sounds like and now hi-rez changes it? You can't sell something and then just change the product. I feel backstabbed with this, not being asked about this in the slightest (no, I don't think the world revolves around me but there should be some sort of global vote or even better: make the voice pack optional).

Same goes for the skin. She just isn't unique anymore and looks exactly like Aphrodite if they use that pink skin. (again: optional!)

I accepted many changes I don't like but this... I can't stand it. And if there is a way: I want to do something against it because Nu Wa is one of my favourite gods and I literally would never want to play her again.

Nigadry
08-04-2014, 01:23 AM
They turned Nu Wa into a burst damage mage and destroyed her uniqueness also if nobody else thinks her new passive isnt complete BS then you are all crazy. It should be a slow PERIOD. No god should have a cc they can throw out so often regardless of how easy or hard it is to land thats just breaking the game.

arka222
08-04-2014, 01:50 AM
The attire and costumes for new Nu Wa and Zeus look very Hinduish.

CheeckyChicken
08-04-2014, 09:43 AM
the cooldowns strong with new nu wa

bupating
08-04-2014, 11:04 AM
After this patch kumbha is still op . need to increase his cooldown.

Stormcaller
08-04-2014, 11:51 AM
Nu Wa is completely ruined when this patch hits the servers. She was one of the most unique, flexible mages around and now she gets completely dumbed down. Who came up with the glorious idea to remove her cage ulti? It was absolute awesome and brought a lot of potential uses to team and solo fights to the table. Even more, it was INTERESTING instead of just "lol fly and hit everything with fire". Bullshit.

lukazsakamoto
08-04-2014, 01:40 PM
I like it very much

VindrSigurthr
08-05-2014, 03:32 AM
Any thoughts on when this patch will hit?

icefight930
08-05-2014, 04:07 AM
gg, Derpules. If this skin is here, then there better be a YolOdin.

SnakeEye073
08-05-2014, 05:53 AM
personally i think New Wa's is just made to fit in the other mages.
By the old Nu Wa you had only to built yourself with attack sped and a little mp (Hastened Fatalis)
Also her abilities are all simply uffs to her basic attacks and her protections. The didnt made any damage (not many) and only buffed her with movement sped, Physical protection, Area dmg and 2x basic attack damage. She was typically a magical hunter. Hirez wanted to remake nu wa so she would fit in the mages.

The abilities in New Wa are need to be accurate and tactical.
I think that New Wa is a challenge for me ( as a mid pref).
The abilities of New Wa are now doing more dmg then the old one, for example: the fog. If you aim right with the fog you can do some great dmg and bring enemies in a tricky situation. Also the claysoldiers are buffed and in combo with the her 3 she does good dmg and decent CC
Her passive is kinda easy to hold enemies and push the lane.
Her ult just a finsiher. I'm expecting a dmg buff in the upcoming patches.

She will cost a LOT of mana for being succesful early game


I don't understand why all the people think this patch is terrible. 'New Wa is one of the 50 Playable characters that get remodelled and now the whole forum is complaining that the whole game is ruined.
New Wa's a challenge and i accept it :)

Arisuneko
08-05-2014, 06:51 AM
personally i think New Wa's is just made to fit in the other mages.

I don't understand why all the people think this patch is terrible.

There, you said it yourself. There are already enough gods that play the mage role casually. The only thing this remake will do is remove a unique god. If hi-rez actually thinks this is a good idea I regret ever to have put money into this game.

Dixen
08-05-2014, 07:53 AM
Ah muzen cab has gotten a bug after patch too.. Honey just stick to a small patch 50% of the times.. Very annoying.

MoFriedChickens
08-05-2014, 08:30 AM
I usually don't speak well/ill of patches till after they are out, but i have to say that this new wa ult is a little cheesy. Get a team low in arena, 3v3 or assault, and its basically a potential triple to penta kill. Mind you its going to be VERY rare to get that kind of setup, but it just seems really cheesy. No ult in the game has that wide a range or the potential to hit that hard, and that's a fact. I also think the treasure chests thing is pretty cruddy too. This is the type of move that DC Universe Marketing made with their skins, tempting you with rare items and then gambling on getting them. It basically helped kill their PC business, which they really didn't care about because they brag about huge numbers on consoles, but last I checked, smite isn't a console game. You should just let people buy the skins if they want them and not force users to gamble for them.

Penta
08-05-2014, 10:03 AM
I usually don't speak well/ill of patches till after they are out, but i have to say that this new wa ult is a little cheesy. Get a team low in arena, 3v3 or assault, and its basically a potential triple to penta kill. Mind you its going to be VERY rare to get that kind of setup, but it just seems really cheesy. No ult in the game has that wide a range or the potential to hit that hard, and that's a fact. I also think the treasure chests thing is pretty cruddy too. This is the type of move that DC Universe Marketing made with their skins, tempting you with rare items and then gambling on getting them. It basically helped kill their PC business, which they really didn't care about because they brag about huge numbers on consoles, but last I checked, smite isn't a console game. You should just let people buy the skins if they want them and not force users to gamble for them.

I think you're confused. The reason why the chest is awesome is because you won't have the ability to get two of the same items in a row. It makes gambling that much sweeter knowing there are no duplicates.

Arisuneko
08-05-2014, 10:22 AM
I think you're confused. The reason why the chest is awesome is because you won't have the ability to get two of the same items in a row. It makes gambling that much sweeter knowing there are no duplicates.

Yes, you always receive something of greater value that you don't already own for the 200 gems. But as someone that is in no way interested in ward skins it's still kind of risky.

NewUltra
08-05-2014, 10:46 AM
Latin American only Tango Chang'e WHY!? WHY WHY WHY?! Why even show this to us? Why show us skins we can't have? Also holy crap that's a stereotypical skin.

I know that everyone is entitled to their own opinion but i think your kind of wrong in what your saying.
A) Latin america is new to smite so letting them get an exclusive skin is a way to get more people into smite and the likelihood is they will eventually release it in the US and EU
B) They show it to us to get us exited about the skin. Some might not agree with it but in my opinion its like spoilers on twitter or and twitch
C) I think the skin is really nice even if its a bit stereotypical. I think the bunny is looks very classy in the hat and change finally has a more casual looking skin.

Just a note to hi-rez on the loading screen card the bunny has a white hat (which i personally think looks better) but on the model is grey. Just a note

iRickRolled
08-05-2014, 12:10 PM
new wa : terrible voice acting, trully pathetic, i'm sorry but i can't imagine that there is someone who have been paid for something like this

now she just look like a whore, really disapointed

however, the new voice pack for zeus is really cool

iNZoW
08-05-2014, 02:24 PM
I just wished they kept the old skin as an alternative.
In case of her spell revamp, 1 and 2 are excellent changes but, 3 and ultimate should have kept the old ones.

But, what do i know? I bet they have a good reason for doing such a move.

Ashfell
08-05-2014, 03:24 PM
Give me back old Nu Wa! Nice balanced god.

RippleApple
08-05-2014, 08:39 PM
New Wa just doesn't look as fun as before. But even if she is, I feel like this change is just fundamentally pointless.

Basically I don't see much of a difference between this one and the old one. They're both teamfight mages. Old Nu Wa was better at supporting allies, and this one is better at being a main damage-dealer. But she'll still be played as a magical adc because of her passive, she's still better at teamfights, she's still better at backdooring... I don't really see the point of this rekit when someone far more in need of one is in the game. It's like noticing the blinds are open in the middle of a house fire. Put out the fire (Arachne) and then fix the pointless blinds if you really want to.

Maybe ask people whether they want the blinds open or not. Maybe they LIKE the blinds open.

Cooldar
08-06-2014, 07:04 AM
After read about changes in nu wa, i thought that is a bad idea. Now I have played, i liked. I can´t do pentakills and other kills simultaneus with his ulti. You must know play with she if you want do damage, you can´t kill everybody with his abilities. Today i saw a nu wa in solo lane, and saw that she couldn´t kill her oponent. She launched three the ultimate ability but she couldn´t kill none. She is a normal mage, she have combos very funny and really dangerous.
I like new the nu wa as much as old nu wa, but i will like see a god as the old nu wa.

Sorry for my english.

MoFriedChickens
08-06-2014, 08:03 AM
The New Wa Ult is incredibly cheesy now that i've played some more matches. Put gem of isolation on her? the entire team is slowed, tie that with enfeebling curse, the opposing team cant retreat. Throw divine ruin on her, watch the enemy team not heal at all. Wanna build stacks on Book of Toth or Doom Orb? The ultimate makes sure you will get the most out of those items. Throw on Warlock's sash and watch her become very, very beefy.

SnakeEye073
08-06-2014, 12:51 PM
There, you said it yourself. There are already enough gods that play the mage role casually. The only thing this remake will do is remove a unique god. If hi-rez actually thinks this is a good idea I regret ever to have put money into this game.

True that they put a unique god out and remodelled it. But Nu Wa was never a real 100% mage because all her abilities were just to buff herself and her basic attacks. Mages need to make serious damage by using their abilities. The old Nu Wa never had that.
Also The New Wa is pretty buffed and strong settled in the game. Her health in the beginning of the game is very high and can sustain a lot of health


Another fact is that New Wa haven't lost her dangerous pushing. Her soldiers can still dive in towers and do a lot of damage.
New Wa is strong now if you combinate and hit all her abilities she does serious damage or an instanly kill. If the instakill doesnt work she uses her ult for the finisher.

Her ult is also very useful for enemies who escaped a battle and have very low health.

There ares o many negative results with New Wa but I had 11/0 and 8/0 in my first two games with her

She is very strong

SnakeEye073
08-06-2014, 12:52 PM
New Wa just doesn't look as fun as before. But even if she is, I feel like this change is just fundamentally pointless.

Basically I don't see much of a difference between this one and the old one. They're both teamfight mages. Old Nu Wa was better at supporting allies, and this one is better at being a main damage-dealer. But she'll still be played as a magical adc because of her passive, she's still better at teamfights, she's still better at backdooring... I don't really see the point of this rekit when someone far more in need of one is in the game. It's like noticing the blinds are open in the middle of a house fire. Put out the fire (Arachne) and then fix the pointless blinds if you really want to.

Maybe ask people whether they want the blinds open or not. Maybe they LIKE the blinds open.

good point the fun is indeed out of New Wa

kristoffura
08-06-2014, 02:38 PM
nu wa's hairs is not very red and she dose not go in to serpent mode like she used to.:) i like the new god, but you took away a lot of what made the old god so much fun. i am not saying that she is bad. i just miss the old god. more then i like this new god!! i like the skins for both of them she is the god of heaven she is supposed to have meany forms.

one side note:
(Althea the weaver of fate. has an awesome sound when she walks! can any other gods be that awesome :) please)

Spirallix
08-06-2014, 07:58 PM
[/QUOTE]
Rama


General

Fixed an issue with his ability targeters starting out faint and loading in over a short time.


Astral Strike

Slow now stacks up to 3 times, changed from 20/25/30/35/40 to 10% at all ranks.
Now costs 25 mana per shot


Serqet
[/QUOTE]

I would like to argument that nerf, of his astral strike arrows, i agree it should be added mana per arrow, but adding 25 mana per arrow, and ONLY 10% slow per stack??

Rama has literary no ability damage kit, it's all based on auto attacks, even his ult:
- 1 Slow 30% only at best, 10/20/30/40/50 damage
Is that all what rama deserves ? I mean i understand that you try to rotate gods a bit, but making him benched is not a solution.

I wouldn't mind 25 mana per arrow, but reducing his slow is a step to far... making it reliable on passive + on mana + reduced slow is just too much for so low benefit. I find him as mana thursty as ullr, but 5x more useless than him. I would never pick rama over Ullr after this patch.


Msg to Hi-res, don't become another League of Legends fail balance team.

MoFriedChickens
08-07-2014, 02:57 AM
I would like to argument that nerf, of his astral strike arrows, i agree it should be added mana per arrow, but adding 25 mana per arrow, and ONLY 10% slow per stack??

Rama has literary no ability damage kit, it's all based on auto attacks, even his ult:
- 1 Slow 30% only at best, 10/20/30/40/50 damage
Is that all what rama deserves ? I mean i understand that you try to rotate gods a bit, but making him benched is not a solution.

I wouldn't mind 25 mana per arrow, but reducing his slow is a step to far... making it reliable on passive + on mana + reduced slow is just too much for so low benefit. I find him as mana thursty as ullr, but 5x more useless than him. I would never pick rama over Ullr after this patch.


Msg to Hi-res, don't become another League of Legends fail balance team.

Yeah astral arrows really got a bad deal this time around. This is what happens when the community focuses rage without learning about god's, their strengths and weaknesses.

Firellius
08-07-2014, 04:21 AM
Msg to Hi-res, don't become another League of Legends fail balance team.

Oh, they're well on their way. Everything offense gets nerfed, everything defense gets buffed.

iGodOfFight
08-07-2014, 06:57 AM
U push it too dam far!

WTF HAVE YOU DONE TO NU WA?!

SHE NEED SIRIUS NERF!!!
U are crazy!
It wasn't enough that she could spawn her own minions that would attack the tower, now this mininons can dash, and even stun!
And if this not enough? now her disapeer skill do damage?!?!
Anf if you make it to escape this? now she have that ultimate that hit everyone in the area!
Even if I am using loki and I am invincable she can target me!

No way to counter it, this skill hit everyone.

You make it impossible to beat her!

GIVE HER NERF!!

DoubleUES
08-07-2014, 12:39 PM
U push it too dam far!

WTF HAVE YOU DONE TO NU WA?!

SHE NEED SIRIUS NERF!!!
U are crazy!
It wasn't enough that she could spawn her own minions that would attack the tower, now this mininons can dash, and even stun!
And if this not enough? now her disapeer skill do damage?!?!
Anf if you make it to escape this? now she have that ultimate that hit everyone in the area!
Even if I am using loki and I am invincable she can target me!

No way to counter it, this skill hit everyone.

You make it impossible to beat her!

GIVE HER NERF!!

You are just bad then...

Her fog did damage before aswel
Position yourself good against the minions, they go first for minions then for gods.
Ulti does so low damage, early on you regen the health in a few seconds.

And there is always aegis to counter her ulti and her damage on the minion explode.

Sychone
08-07-2014, 06:50 PM
This is probably my first post here, but I have to say I don't like the remake of Nu Wa. Her looks, her skills/playstyle was much better before, and as others said, it was unique. Her voicepack was mature sounding and commanding.

I want the old looks and voice back, and if possible the skills too.

Feni007
08-08-2014, 09:50 AM
I personally love the new Nu Wa. I use to play Karthus and Zeus(Dota Zeus) religiously and she has their ulti. Plus her combo late game has some insane burst to it. Although it's a bit of a dilemma cause I also loved the old Nu Wa. I'd be quite happy if her old ultimate made a re-appearance on a future god but somehow I doubt that will happen.

Also to all the people calling her a "whore", you should probably look up the definition. Showing skin doesn't make you a prostitute.

SnakeEye073
08-08-2014, 04:33 PM
I personally love the new Nu Wa. I use to play Karthus and Zeus(Dota Zeus) religiously and she has their ulti. Plus her combo late game has some insane burst to it. Although it's a bit of a dilemma cause I also loved the old Nu Wa. I'd be quite happy if her old ultimate made a re-appearance on a future god but somehow I doubt that will happen.

Also to all the people calling her a "whore", you should probably look up the definition. Showing skin doesn't make you a prostitute.

indeed i hope that the old ult will be on a hunter (including and because of the passive of the ult)

Dragonmystery
08-09-2014, 05:20 AM
Serqet is too strong, you can do nothing against her. Warrior are to strong too: for example Osiris, Tyr and Herkules, they have many protection but they deal damage like an assasin, it should be a combination from tank and assasin but not the best from both!
Sry for my bad english

GoldenSkill
08-09-2014, 11:37 AM
nu wa looks like she has lots of cc for that stun combo.. she can 100-0 a squishy if the targect is unable to run away or stay away from the minions(killing the minions fast can also be an idea to counter nu wa).

i mean, if she aim her root and throw her combo, that can be an easy no brain needed kill.

they either change her passive or remove the dash from the minions. ( mr reduction.. why ???? don't u think there is enough penetration items there ? )

or maybe, make the minions die when they are cc'ed. like swk's clone. i think this one is a great idea.

GoldenSkill
08-09-2014, 11:40 AM
Serqet is too strong, you can do nothing against her. Warrior are to strong too: for example Osiris, Tyr and Herkules, they have many protection but they deal damage like an assasin, it should be a combination from tank and assasin but not the best from both!
Sry for my bad english

magi's blessing against tyr= GG for u.
or try to time beads right.

MsInvogue
08-09-2014, 01:44 PM
nu wa looks like she has lots of cc for that stun combo.. she can 100-0 a squishy if the targect is unable to run away or stay away from the minions(killing the minions fast can also be an idea to counter nu wa).

i mean, if she aim her root and throw her combo, that can be an easy no brain needed kill.

they either change her passive or remove the dash from the minions. ( mr reduction.. why ???? don't u think there is enough penetration items there ? )

or maybe, make the minions die when they are cc'ed. like swk's clone. i think this one is a great idea.

Many burst mages exist in Smite like Scylla, Ao Kuang, Poseidon...and Nu Wa is now amongst them too. Nu Wa kills with her 2 and 3 combo and other mages with one ability and number 4 for example. I see no problem here, Nu Wa's rework is great.

SnakeEye073
08-09-2014, 02:10 PM
Serqet is too strong, you can do nothing against her. Warrior are to strong too: for example Osiris, Tyr and Herkules, they have many protection but they deal damage like an assasin, it should be a combination from tank and assasin but not the best from both!
Sry for my bad english

serqet is a an assassin thats hard to play. she rots herself instead of walking invisible her 2 hasnt got any good stable range. Her one is is powerful but uncontrollable for other people and ehr ult is just a decent poison ult.
Only her 1 is strong for the rest she's and stays a hard assassin only if you combine those abilities good you can play it well. I personally love to play as serqet

Cooldar
08-10-2014, 08:16 AM
I don´t understand, Which is the problem with nu wa?. His minions and his damage and stun? The fog? The ultimate hability, pleased if she can´t kill with her, if a god have more than 20 % the life. The ultimate hability only is used for give the last hit if the god enemy escape.
His minions are weak if they attack alone, and are easy kill. If you want blow up your minions you must hit him with the 3.
I remember that the fog in the last nu wa also damage.

I have fought versus nu wa in 3 versus 3 and in conquest, I don´t see a nu wa with a overpower. I have more problems with the twisters of ao. He can eliminate you with facility because you can´t escape if the twister impact in your god. I don´t understand why nobody says something about a skill can follow you.

Firellius
08-11-2014, 02:17 AM
I don´t understand, Which is the problem with nu wa?. His minions and his damage and stun? The fog? The ultimate hability, pleased if she can´t kill with her, if a god have more than 20 % the life. The ultimate hability only is used for give the last hit if the god enemy escape.
His minions are weak if they attack alone, and are easy kill. If you want blow up your minions you must hit him with the 3.
I remember that the fog in the last nu wa also damage.

I have fought versus nu wa in 3 versus 3 and in conquest, I don´t see a nu wa with a overpower. I have more problems with the twisters of ao. He can eliminate you with facility because you can´t escape if the twister impact in your god. I don´t understand why nobody says something about a skill can follow you.

Because that thing has, what, 1.5 second deploy delay? And Ao Kuang snaps like a twig.

Also, I don't think people have a problem with New Wa's power. It's just that she's lost her unique traits, and her ultimate is, quite frankly, cheating.